Palestine has never existed as a state. It was supposed to be created for the first time alongside the state of Israel in 1948, but the Arabs rejected the UN transition plan and went to war against the newly formed Israel instead of accepting independence.
Please learn a little history before commenting on it.
You’re so full of shit. Palestine was a real place that real people lived in for countless years. They were ripped from their homes while being killed and raped in order to make a new home of israel. I took a class on this so dont act like im not informed while you spew propaganda out your fingers.
If Palestine was a country, what date was it founded? What was the system of government? Who was the first head of state? Who was the most recent head of state prior to 1948?
You may need to check your notes from the one class you took.
I wish i paid for the ultrea version of my app of choice just so i could group you into the malicious dumb fuck section. You dont believe of what you say, you simply parrot russian talking points.
So 1 - support app developers. Just get it. 2- Russia is ridiculously pro-Palestinian, pro-Iran, Anti-Israel, so I think that’s a pretty wide swing and a miss. Slava Ukraini. 3 - it’s not a matter of belief, it is simply a fact that before Israel was established, Palestine was a region of the British mandate, prior to that it was a region of the Ottoman Empire, and so on from one empire to another all the way back to the time of the the Jewish Kingdom of Solomon.
In the early 20th Century, Palestine was a mix of Jewish, Arab, Druze, Bedoin, etc. Jewish Palestinians and Arab Palestinians were the two largest population groups, both of whom helped the Allies in WWI. Both were acknowledged as having a natural right to establish a state in their native land. The British eventually determined that the UN was in the best position to negotiate and define the borders, which they did. The Jews accepted the borders and declared their State, the Arabs did not. Rather, they launched a military campaign against the State of Israel. Portions of what would have been the State of Palestine were captured by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel.
Please research all of these statements. They are not my personal beliefs or opinions. They are uncontroversial facts.
Quite the stretch. Palestine was a region of the British Empire, prior to that a region of the Ottoman Empire, and so on. The region was always part of an established state going all the way back to the Kingdom of Israel in the 10th century BCE.
The existence of a unique Palestinian national identity emerged probably in the 20th century. Possibly 19th.
The people that lived in that region certainly didn’t think of themselves as British or Ottomans, and neither did the British or the Ottomans. That’s just colonialism.
This revisionist “Palestine isn’t real” nonsense is indistinguishable from the justification for the Holocaust. Jews were seen as parasites without their own nation-state, rootless cosmopolitans and not really people, and so they had to be exterminated. Now the fascists are coming for Palestinians, and with the same fucking justifications as always.
Stop spewing revisionist fascist history. This was the lie that was used to justify the Nakba and it’s the lie they’re using now to justify turning Gaza into a death camp.
I should clarify. I never said that Palestine was/is not real. Palestine was a region made of primarily of Jews and Arabs. They thought of themselves as Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs. The Arabs of the region certainly considered themselves a part of the Pan-Arab identity.
Palestine has never existed as a state. It was supposed to be created for the first time alongside the state of Israel in 1948, but the Arabs rejected the UN transition plan and went to war against the newly formed Israel instead of accepting independence.
It sure sounded like you were saying Palestine is not real.
Let me clarify too - many of the people called “Arabs” in Palestine were descended from Jews that converted to Islam, as well other Levantine and Semitic peoples in the region. It was actually only under the Ottomans that there was this distinction created between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews, before that many Palestinians can trace their families back to their Jewish roots.
Unfortunately Zionists continued this racist program to further segregate their home into ethnostates instead of forming a single multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy. Then they got a white European dominated UN to force a racist agreement onto the rest of Palestinians, which would give the best and most land to the Jews while kicking the rest of Palestinians out of their homes. Why the fuck would they agree to a colonial partition plan and let their land be taken from them?
There is no justification for ethnostates. Only a single multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy from the river to the sea.
Palestine has never existed as a state. It was supposed to be created for the first time alongside the state of Israel in 1948, but the Arabs rejected the UN transition plan and went to war against the newly formed Israel instead of accepting independence.
Please learn a little history before commenting on it.
You’re so full of shit. Palestine was a real place that real people lived in for countless years. They were ripped from their homes while being killed and raped in order to make a new home of israel. I took a class on this so dont act like im not informed while you spew propaganda out your fingers.
If Palestine was a country, what date was it founded? What was the system of government? Who was the first head of state? Who was the most recent head of state prior to 1948?
You may need to check your notes from the one class you took.
I wish i paid for the ultrea version of my app of choice just so i could group you into the malicious dumb fuck section. You dont believe of what you say, you simply parrot russian talking points.
So 1 - support app developers. Just get it. 2- Russia is ridiculously pro-Palestinian, pro-Iran, Anti-Israel, so I think that’s a pretty wide swing and a miss. Slava Ukraini. 3 - it’s not a matter of belief, it is simply a fact that before Israel was established, Palestine was a region of the British mandate, prior to that it was a region of the Ottoman Empire, and so on from one empire to another all the way back to the time of the the Jewish Kingdom of Solomon.
In the early 20th Century, Palestine was a mix of Jewish, Arab, Druze, Bedoin, etc. Jewish Palestinians and Arab Palestinians were the two largest population groups, both of whom helped the Allies in WWI. Both were acknowledged as having a natural right to establish a state in their native land. The British eventually determined that the UN was in the best position to negotiate and define the borders, which they did. The Jews accepted the borders and declared their State, the Arabs did not. Rather, they launched a military campaign against the State of Israel. Portions of what would have been the State of Palestine were captured by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel.
Please research all of these statements. They are not my personal beliefs or opinions. They are uncontroversial facts.
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Literally the same argument used to genocide the Native Americans.
Quite the stretch. Palestine was a region of the British Empire, prior to that a region of the Ottoman Empire, and so on. The region was always part of an established state going all the way back to the Kingdom of Israel in the 10th century BCE.
The existence of a unique Palestinian national identity emerged probably in the 20th century. Possibly 19th.
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The people that lived in that region certainly didn’t think of themselves as British or Ottomans, and neither did the British or the Ottomans. That’s just colonialism.
This revisionist “Palestine isn’t real” nonsense is indistinguishable from the justification for the Holocaust. Jews were seen as parasites without their own nation-state, rootless cosmopolitans and not really people, and so they had to be exterminated. Now the fascists are coming for Palestinians, and with the same fucking justifications as always.
Stop spewing revisionist fascist history. This was the lie that was used to justify the Nakba and it’s the lie they’re using now to justify turning Gaza into a death camp.
I should clarify. I never said that Palestine was/is not real. Palestine was a region made of primarily of Jews and Arabs. They thought of themselves as Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs. The Arabs of the region certainly considered themselves a part of the Pan-Arab identity.
It sure sounded like you were saying Palestine is not real.
Let me clarify too - many of the people called “Arabs” in Palestine were descended from Jews that converted to Islam, as well other Levantine and Semitic peoples in the region. It was actually only under the Ottomans that there was this distinction created between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews, before that many Palestinians can trace their families back to their Jewish roots.
Unfortunately Zionists continued this racist program to further segregate their home into ethnostates instead of forming a single multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy. Then they got a white European dominated UN to force a racist agreement onto the rest of Palestinians, which would give the best and most land to the Jews while kicking the rest of Palestinians out of their homes. Why the fuck would they agree to a colonial partition plan and let their land be taken from them?
There is no justification for ethnostates. Only a single multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy from the river to the sea.
Watching some TikTok videos doesn’t count as a history class.
Sorry to inform you but ive never even used tik tok. I know i know, im old, 33, but, whatever.