• BMTea@lemmy.world
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    Reddit is one of the most infiltrated and astroturfed site. I have absolutely no confidence that the leadership are interested in addressing that. When there were suspicions it was anti-US actors, they had to take action because the government would get involved. But we all know that such pressure doesn’t exist for other astroturfing actors, state and private.

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      When something grows to that size it becomes recognized as a useful tool with which to conduct social engineering. Reddit has been a weapon of information warfare for well over a decade.

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        Yes, what shocks me most is that there was a small window of time in which media organizations covered Israel’s troll farms on there, but when Russiagate happened they essentially mentioned it only in passing from then on. To me, the subtext of that was Israel gets a pass as it’s not belligerent social engineering.

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          I got permabanned from reddit because I said to a zionist who accused all Lebanese of blaming all their problems on Israel ‘no, we just blame Israel for what it deserves blame for’ and apparently that constituted a call to violence against a marginalized group.

          Meanwhile the amount of genocide justification and thinly veiled threats of genocide almost always go unpunished. Stuff like saying that no one in the world cares for Lebanon except its cuisine and landscape (implying the people can disappear and nothing will be lost) or telling people not to worry about future problems, implying that they will soon entirely annhiliate Lebanon.

          This isn’t even just it. Anyone calling out the sheer amount of propagandists or showing how real the Hasbara program is (look it up) will get their posts removed. Even the Syria subreddit is packed with low-effort videos and anti-Lebanese propaganda. For example: Any show of what appears to be crowds of people celebrating is attributed to Syrians celebrating the death of Nasrallah, and any violence happening is automatically attributed to Hezbollah Lebanese (or even Lebanese in general) just attacking Syrians for nothing.

          Those videos show no indication of who the people are or what they are doing, and that is how you know it is fake. They also keep making huge claims of Hezbollah conducting massive bombing operations in Syria against random civilians when there is not the slightest shred of evidence to support that, not even news articles or reports from Israeli sources. Just show a bunch of amublance workers and then claim it is a Hezbollah bombing.

          It is as depressing as it is disgusting.

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            Ohh I am well aware of these clowns lol

            I did my part prior to existing reddit. So this checks out.

            Zionist support among mods is also super strong it is ducking weird… But if you look at media and entertainment, it checks out.

            Fedi is one of the few people where people are having these discussions in ernest, this discussion can’t had much else where

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              Yeah. I got back on reddit with an alternate account and a VPN, the month I spent off kinda cooled down my appetite for that place. I still get a lot of news from it, so technically I don’t need to post as much but… fuck me, I hated zionists before and right now I cannot describe my loathing for those people.

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                Seeing genocide real time with 100% backed by your government (presume US here tbh) will trigger a taxpayer…

                Israel was able to fly under the rader but since oct7, many people really started to learn to what actually happened. and no amount of propaganda can fix that.

                me and my homies hate israel… it is an abomination.

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    It’s sad how many docile idiots remained on Reddit and Twitter after last year.

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      People still use AOL internet. I expect Reddit and twitter to die sometime in the 2050s.

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        I missed the part where Aol. was promoting toxicity and hate while attempting a short-term grift on its users like Reddit and X have.

        That fact that Aol. is still alive is amazing by itself. It’s just another sleazy, beleaguered company that used to be meaningful. You leave because other companies have better products, not because they offend your sense of morality.

        (Or maybe they do.)

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          I think you underestimate how ignorant people can be. The reason Aol still exists is because they are grifters too. My Aol example was to show that people are docile idiots and won’t change their habits. Aol is grifting just as much as reddit does. They’re just grifting different groups in different ways.

          That’s why i think reddit and twitter will continue on for a long time. Maybe not as powerhouses but they won’t implode or go away any time soon.

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            My mom was still paying for dial-up AOL in 2016. She had been paying them $20 a month for over a decade while having high-speed internet that she was also paying for.

            When I asked her why she didn’t cancel it, she said she would lose her email.

            So I canceled it because AOL provides free email because they make money off of the ads.

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        Not just AOL Internet, but also the email service. Same for Hotmail. I used to work at iHeart, and the number of those email services (from prize winners) was not insignificant.

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          Hotmail was owned by Microsoft when I signed up in the late 90s. It’s no surprise it’s still around. It hasn’t been my primary email for a long time, but I still use it as my MS account. So really it’s just my Minecraft account.

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            I have a few accounts floating around for different services Microsoft has bought out or since integrated logins for. I genuinely don’t know how many Microsoft accounts I have, and it’s always a pain trying to guess which one a given service is on

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        Digg still exists. Death of websites is rarely a complete shutter, but usually more of a steady decline into obscurity

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      There are a lot of subreddits for which there is no real replacement. Sometimes the strength in a community is the people. Doesn’t matter if reddit sucks if the people are there.

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      I don’t know, I feel during that exodus we got the best of the best. I miss some of the niche communities, But there’s so many fewer assholes over here.

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      I believe you missed the point. There’s people there because they know that their content won’t be found elsewhere.

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    I’m thinking the API protests would have been more effective if y’all just stopped moderating entirely instead of locking down subreddits.

    Let the site turn into an absolute cesspool.

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    I’m not surprised. I’m on this site because I’m sick of being banned on reddit for thinking wrong.

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    There’s an irony seeing Redditors creating threads and complaining about it as if they did anything during the API-gate saga

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    Lmao now even the moderators get cancelled by Reddit.

    The platform can’t die quick enough, it turned into such a fucking cesspool of powertripping mods and circlejerks. And it’s impossible to ever get in contact with admins because they replaced them all by bots. There are also so many bot posters that at some point it’ll just be bots moderating bots, moderated by admin bots.

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    I came here to banish reddit but this thing wont leave my feed. I guess I’m going to have to take the time to filter the word.

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    I wonder how much longer it will be before Reddit has to start paying people to moderate the subreddits since no one will want to do it for free anymore.

    Who am I kidding, there are so many people that are already taking their payment in the HOA like authority being a mod gives them that will never happen.

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    The same day Nestler and I talked, for example, she said that she had spoken about the changes with Reddit’s mod council, which has about 160 moderators.

    Wow. So many power-hungry people in one room.

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    so many leaders are forgetting what the point of protests is. yes, protests are annoying if you’re a leader. but they’re better than the alternative. that’s the whole point.

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    Moderators will now have to submit a request if they want to switch their subreddit from public to private.

    But do they have to submit a request if they tell the audience “fuck it, this is now a sub about X, we’ll remove everything that’s not about X”?

    …In fact, fuck any particular topic - if the mods approve of it, every subreddit can actually be about whatever people think it should be about, now that we think about it. If the mods don’t do it, will the admins do it? The answer is: Highly unlikely