• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        Oh shut up already with your disingenuous arguments, pretending that trump wouldn’t wipe out the Palestinians as he himself claimed multiple times whereas Biden (not kamela) simply hasn’t done enough to stop it because if he’d do so, they could lose the election to Trump

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          So you’re admitting Biden and Kamala are supporting a genocide for their own political gain…

          How can you support such moral bankruptcy? How is this any different from Nazi rhetoric in 1938? What do you think when you see the victims- the desperate, crying, amputated, starving, orphaned children?

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            2 months ago

            Simple!

            First you recognize that things are a little more complicated than your over simplified world view, and then you remember that if it’s not them, it’s literally going to be Satan’s spawn who pretty much said he will just kill them all.

            You’re against the wall and you have no option. You either vote kamela, or Palestinians are done for.

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            2 months ago

            How can you support such moral bankruptcy? How is this any different from Nazi rhetoric in 1938? What do you think when you see the victims- the desperate, crying, amputated, starving, orphaned children?

            You speak as if Trump will save the suffering children, why would you think that? And if Kamala doesn’t win, we get Trump, not peaceful utopia.

            Politics is a horrible game that must be played. Our election has not here presented us with a choice between genocide and peace. We are presented with a choice between one genocide (she hopefully will work to end) vs many simultaneous genocides including against people like myself.

            Kamala Harris coming out as against the genocide right now would guarantee her loss and Trump’s victory. How does that help anyone?

            Trump will not end the genocide of the Palestinian people, he will make it worse and go on to start new genocides. Voting for Kamala Harris doesn’t mean you support her every action past and present and all her beliefs, it’s merely a strategic choice we as citizens of a democratic republic can make to do what little we can to guide our government in the right direction.

            Trump has said he will be very harsh and imprison protesters, if you want to end the genocide of the Palestinian people, how effective will you be from a prison cell?

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          2 months ago

          I’m thankful that I live in a solid blue state so I dont have to vote for either genocidal candidate.

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            2 months ago

            You do have to vote for a good candidate though …. I challenge you: from one blue state to another, who can get the biggest margin of victory? My state vs yours (assuming we’re different) …60% Harris? 65% Harris? Can we do 70%?

            Also in both the best case scenario and the worst case scenario, it’s very helpful to demonstrate the largest popular vote win for Harris. Politicians might turn like a windmill, spin like a whirlpool, but they do pay some attention to votes

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              I challenge you from one blue state to another, dont vote for any candidate who has pledged support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

              The margin that matters is 5%, can a third party break the 5% barrier and get matching national funds? It will be the first step in breaking this evil duopoly and the “lesser of two evils” disaster that is destroying our democracy.

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                2 months ago

                And yet voting is about more than one issue. Atricities are happening in more than one theater. There’s more to life than one atrocity no matter how big. A US leader occasionally takes time off from running Israel to run US

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            2 months ago

            You’re happy with the outcome but still gotta say you don’t approve of the outcome? Kinda weirder than just voting the better choice, but what do I know I guess.

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              2 months ago

              I’m not happy with the outcome at all, we are going to have another right wing president who explicitly supports genocide. Even though I find Harris to be abhorrent and disgusting, she is obviously the lesser of two evils.