• Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    As an old wrestling fan from the late 90s, how did 2024 manage to make me cheer for the ICP while booing the undertaker and Steve Austin?

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    Makes sense, Juggalos hate fascists and despite Kamala being a cop, Trump is the bigger fascist.

    Although it is weird to see Eminem and ICP on the same side of something.

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      Although it is weird to see Eminem and ICP on the same side of something

      I was curious so I looked it up.

      In 1997 Eminem put out flyers for a show that said “with ICP (maybe)”

      And they got kind of pissed about that, which they have a right to. But they’ve been over it for 20 years now.

      Fucking crazy it’s 2024 and that was almost 30 years ago.

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        I would have shown up if I were them-surprise Eminem at his own show and support the Michigan music scene at once.

        Edit: perhaps not just the Michigan music scene, I assumed this was before Eminem got big, but 1997 is definitely after his big break

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          1997 was before his big break. At this point, he was Rap Olympics famous, not signed to Dr. Dre famous.

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      their dedicated following, known as Juggalos, is in the tens of thousands. Gatherings for ICP fans have drawn upwards of 20,000 people. Juggalos are known for their distinctive style, which includes face paint, clown costumes, and hatchet symbols. They’ve also developed their own slang and idioms. The National Gang Intelligence Center estimates that there are over one million self-proclaimed Juggalos in the United States, but 85–90% of them are non-criminal music fans.

      That a lot of voters, I wouldn’t say no to. And for some reason Ive found out that a lot of conservatives in the u.s think juggalos are a crazy street gang like in the warriors

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      They hold a music festival every year called the gathering of the juggalos, usually somewhere in the Midwest, that attracts around 10k people per year. They’re not a huge underground culture in America but they are there and disproportionately higher populations living in Midwest and Central swing states. Most of the juggalos I’ve met are kind and just want to get high and listen to music about horror movies and wrestling and stuff like that. They have been anti-science and education in the past in their anti-establishment rhetoric which is probably the worst part of the subculture.

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    Juggalos are surprisingly decent, given their image. I may not be down with the clown, myself, but they’re alright

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      I haven’t exactly spent a lot of time in Juggalo circles, but the few I have met have all been great people, the types of people who would literally give you the shirt off their back without a second thought. Generally not the brightest bulbs out there, but they also tend to be the rare type of person who can recognize that about themselves and are willing to seek out and listen to people who are more knowledgeable (unless we’re talking about scientists and magnets) which is actually pretty amazing, that’s not a common quality to find in any group of people

      I generally kind of think of juggalos as those kids in school who were a little too weird to be “normal” kids, and not smart enough to be “nerds” some of them have some issues, maybe more than average, but most of them are just trying to get by with what they’ve got.

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        Isn’t that a bit late? I’m 36 and ICP seemed like a thing for the age bracket above me growing up. Or did the whole magnets meme push their demo to a lower age bracket or something?

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          some artists pick up new fans with every generation. see also: michael jackson, the beatles, ozzy, hendrix, slayer, etc.

          it’s kind of hilarious to me, being a 80s/90s kid, that of all the acts that were HUGE in the 90s (collective soul, smashing pumpkins, alanis morrisete, REM, etc), ICP is one of the few still in the news

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            I mean, as a GenXer it kinda makes sense to me that the biggest GenX bands are not about trying to stay in headlines. 🤷‍♂️

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              Smashing Pumpkins is back, and banks like RHCP and Radiohead just never stopped making (at least decent, some great) new records.

              But yeah if the drugs didn’t get them, the attitudes to it a lot of spotlight from those bands.

              However, The number of teens wearing Nirvana clothes recently has been fun to see. And being told I wouldn’t understand why a teen would like their songs is fucking hilariously (as I was a young teen when they came out). I wonder how long it’s going to last though.

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        As for women’s rights, he believes in them (“they have the right to be the fuckin’ shit”), and as for environmental conservation, he thinks its time humans get over their superiority complex, saying, “Let me tell you what a superior animal is: a whale.”

        American politics are so fucked that actual clowns have become the voice of reason.

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    even if i dont care for everything else they represent, i applaude their touch of sensibility here

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      A guy in clown makeup calling himself Violent J: “I am endorsing Kamala Harris because she’s a Democrat and I love my mom.”

      Really hard to argue… For several reasons

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        I can only think of two times I’ve seen ICP in pop culture, once with their whole magnets thing, and once on Workaholics which is a heavily millennial show.

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          Makes sense. Millennial generation starts with people born in 1981, and ICP became big in the late 90s. So millennials were the teenagers when ICP hit big. I doubt many people in their 20’s and 30’s were jumping on the ICP train.