Denuvo blames its low reputation on anyone who has experienced its product
Ullman’s argumentation is very wiggly when it comes to impact on performance. On one hand, he claims there’s very little proof, on the other hand he claims there is no point producing proof because they wouldn’t be believed. Furthermore he says their hands are tied as they’d need their client’s approval to publish such numbers, conveniently ignoring the possibility of anonymizing and grouping data. Remember they state to being included in 70-80 games yearly.
Finally, and this is an old song, but anyways: preventing loss in sales due to piracy is an exercise in wishful thinking. The amount of pirate players who would have paid in an alternate universe with no cracked version can’t be reliably estimated.
… he claims there is no point producing proof because they wouldn’t be believed.
He also dismisses any evidence created by others as untrustworthy.
What a load of shit. It’s up to the person making the claim to provide evidence. People have claimed the opposite, and backed it up with “low-quality” evidence. Refusing it would be pretty easy, if it were true; get someone independent to verify in a pre-funded, blind trial.
The only reason not to do this is because they know their product reduces framerate frequently enough to be a problem.
“It’s the pirates’ fault because they prove we’re full of shit”
This would be great job if it weren’t for all the people vibes
Existence be like that sometimes
Die mad about it. ☠️
I mean, they are right.
Just not in the way they think.That’s funny bc it seems their entire job is to steal data and slow down game cracks by a small amount.
“Gamers”? Who else do they think is even going to encounter their shit? If the people that are forced to endure your shit aren’t happy, seems like a you problem.
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The problem are Customers, who don’t just accept things that bring zero benefits for them whilst making their life worse.
But worry not, Denuvo does a great job at getting rid of those.
Denuvo’s customers are corporations, not consumers. “We had a poor reputation because of gamers. CEOs who aren’t gamers love us!”
Well, I meant it in the sense of End-Customers.
As you rightly point out Denuvo’s own Customers are other companies.
So basically their whole thing boils down to “The people who don’t like us are the people we’re trying to stop anyway, and everyone else is just wrong when they don’t like us.” When challenged on things like performance impacts they insist that they can’t provide metrics, because it would be difficult to get permission, and even if they did nobody would believe them anyway. Any time a third party provides those metrics, though, those are lies because those third parties are all pirates. So again, everyone who doesn’t like Denuvo is actually just wrong, at least according to Denuvo.
This effort at defending themselves is just so hilariously bad. Not only did they utterly fail to make themselves look any better in any way, the absolute shallowness of their answers makes them look so much worse.
Fuck Denuvo, absolute bunch of clowns, the lot of them.
Well, when your DRM software is utter shit that it leads gamers to pirate games you’re not going to have the best reputation.
I’m not well versed in how Denuvo works, only in how it tanks performance. Does anyone know if there is anything stopping Denuvo from checking purchase validity the first time, and on subsequent game launches it can access a secure folder with a file like an internet cookie saying “yeah, this game was bought legit at one point, let it run” and then not run alongside the game?
Well such a cookie could probably be copied by pirates as well
That would be entirely too easily bypassed. Also, afaik, it’s kinda what Denuvo does when it’s offline. You can take a file from a legitimate install- I don’t know how/which one- and put it in a pirated copy and Denuvo will work fine… for two days. Then the little certificate or w.e. expires, and you’ve gotta get another one.
So they have a great reputation with people who aren’t gamers?
Yeah, the C level execs!
Imagine stating you are unable to get third parties to agree to release metrics on game performance, then turning around and saying that when third parties give metrics that they’re wrong.
