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    And his supporters will still vote him. Even Elon has been saying that if Trump wins, there will be a “temporary” financial crisis. The thing is, “temporary” can mean months or years depending on your scale. But we know financial crises don’t last for a week or two.

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      he means that Trump and his billionaire friends (including Elon) will make lots of money while common folks suffer but that is all worth it because they will make M’uricah great again

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      Hopefully, he strokes out before the EC casts their votes in December. If that happens, we can end up with a Harris/Vance administration.

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          Yeah, I was a little off on the timeline… If he strokes out after the EC casts their votes, but before they are counted in the House, then Vance will be properly elected to the vice presidency, but the House is required to immediately vote on the Presidency. They only get to select from the top three EC vote winners. With Harris being the only candidate to win any EC votes for president, the House is constitutionally required to elect her. Harris/Vance.

          If I were a Republican, I’d table-flip that outcome, but theoretically…

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      I wonder how long it will be until the Trump vs Musk power struggle. My guess is early summer.

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      • A lot of Americans think when he talks about doing bad things, it’s all talks,
      • when he talks about making the economy better, it’s all in good faith,
      • all the “necessary evil” can be undone in the next election cycle,
      • and business controls the narrative, that would highly benefit under trump.

      Yeah, and boring and ineffective liberals that trying to take the moral high ground every time the right takes yet another low.

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        Funny how those talking points mirror the ones Russian troll factories would try to push inside their respective bubbles.

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        Honestly I’m not sure American businesses are very smart.

        I imagine corpos do want trump, but it seems as short sighted as going after quarterly profits ahead of all else.

        Ok, so you own a corporation and want those pesky “water break” regulations that are really cutting into your profits to go away. So you back trump. He tweets out “WORKERS DRINKING WATER ON THE CLOCK, SAD AND BIGLY BAD” and they decide that’s an official act and you can squeeze an extra 15 minutes out of your workers.

        Meanwhile, he puts a 20% tariff on all your inputs.

        I don’t support, but could at least understand, companies wanting this guy out of some rank greed. But he’s articulated positions that would be awful for most businesses. Every serious economist has looked at his tariff plan and gone “oh yea, that would destroy the economy”

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          Corporations are chasing after short-term profits, not long-term ones. The only job I used to have was literally bankrupted by my then boss to avoid paying taxes on his other business ventures.

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    He said he will be a dictator for one day. Also mused in detail about how great it would be to have one really tough day or night where the gloves came off. Sounded like a strong vigilante rallying call, to every raging nutjob who really wants to go out and kick some gay ass, or whatever.

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      I mean Hitler made a similar speech announcing the night of the long knives.

      If anyone reproaches me and asks why I did not resort to the regular courts of justice, then all I can say is this. In this hour I was responsible for the fate of the German people, and thereby I became the supreme judge of the German people. I gave the order to shoot the ringleaders in this treason, and I further gave the order to cauterise down to the raw flesh the ulcers of this poisoning of the wells in our domestic life. Let the nation know that its existence – which depends on its internal order and security – cannot be threatened with impunity by anyone! And let it be known for all time to come that if anyone raises his hand to strike the State, then certain death is his lot.

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      Well they will have to go through my guns first. I’m not going down without a fight.

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    This is the first time a politician is honest about something.

    But it’s for the absolutely wrong reasons.

    This is just blatantly saying “HEY! I’M GOING TO BE ABSOLUTE SHIT TO YOU ALL! AND IT’S GOING TO BE ROUGH! AND IT’S GOING TO BE NASTY! BLOODY!”

    Like okay okay, we have had months leading up to this to know. We don’t need you to remind us yet again about how you’ll do things.

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    Trump will do a great job. The SCOTUS gave him full immunity, so what can go wrong?

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        I’m so divided on this. I would love to see him do anything to mitigate the damage. But I fear that almost anything could tip us into a rural versus urban civil war. I beg all leftists to procure a gun(s), learn gun safety, and learn how to shoot.

        Preferably in the next month because I wouldn’t be surprised if sales are restricted.

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          All I’m going to say on that, is this:

          What guns you do have…. Lock them up securely. (Ideally, behind 3 locks- the room, a gun safe, and an individual cable or trigger lock.)

          We don’t need more headlines like “five yo shoots family”.

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              It isn’t just about kids. For one thing firearms are expensive and valuable, and increases your risks of being broken into. (Most thieves, though, will only target easy victims.)

              The other thing is each lock is one more conscious choice with firearms. It’s not much, but it does provide a decision-point where you can choose something else when you find yourself in a mental health crisis.

              And for home defense…. It’s almost certain if it changes outcomes… it’ll be hurting you, if it’s stored open. (Now if you carry in your home, that’s different, but also… well we won’t get into that.)

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                It’s a good point and we do have trigger locks. I don’t want to ever have to hurt someone but especially after yesterday I’m not taking any chances.

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        It would take more than a couple. Trump is terrible on his own, but he isn’t the sole problem, he’s largely just a symptom of the bigger problem.

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      Nobody is going to change who they are and how they want to live because of Putin’s fat orange bitch.

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    The Dems are going to lose not once but twice to this guy that anyone even a little progressive could have handedly beat.

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        Keep telling yourself that. Maybe the Dems should get their own version of Donald Trump haha.

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        Dude face it, the DNC is completely flaccid and ineffectual as long as it tries to appeal to institutionalist values during a populist cultural zeitgeist.

        And the Democratic party isn’t going to benefit from trying to beat Xenophobic Nationalism™: the Party at its own game of xenophobic nationalism by ceasing to counter their rhetoric on immigration like they did once Biden took office.

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        No wrong, Trump actually didn’t perform any better than last time. It’s Harris that couldn’t even match the performance of Biden haha.