• Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    “Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).

    In other words “Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!”

    I guess there’s no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they’re willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.

    We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.

    8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don’t care if you’re “protesting Gaza”, or if you’re a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.

    The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn’t even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn’t even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don’t bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we’re cool with it.

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      I will note at the rate things are going Trump has like a 85% chance of beating his 2020 numbers and a small chance of beating Biden’s 2020 numbers. It’s not JUST Harris poor turnout.

      (Also her turnout was only bad by 2020 standards, it’s still higher than John Kerry or Gore or Hillary)

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      Blame everyone but Harris huh?

      She, along with Hillary, never once bothered to try getting Stein voters to switch to her. It was both their downfalls. Trump did all he could to get RFK voters to switch to him.

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        I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. But Trump won by far more than Stein pulled away from Harris (Outside of maybe Michigan). Even if she did court those votes, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.

        But last night wasn’t the result of a political miscalculation that they realized in hindsight. She underperformed when compared to Biden by roughly 10%. 8-10 million Democrats that voted last time opted out this time. That’s a shellacking. 8-10 million people said “I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I’d first step aside and let Trump win anyway over voting for Harris.” There was nothing she could have done to win them over. Her campaign was doomed from the start. She just didn’t know it at the time.

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        …RFK Jr did just as much damage as Stein did and got almost the same number of votes despite being off a ton of important large states. He’s the reason New Mexico isn’t so close it’s a Swing State. It ain’t the greens

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        Stein has well under a million votes, her votes wouldn’t have made a difference if Harris got every single one.

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          Tell that to the person above me. People either voted for Stein or stayed home (since Stein wasn’t on the ballot in many states).

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        They went further than that this year, instead of trying to win over disenfranchised voters they completely ignored anything to the left of Chaney

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      A guy at work today said he wasn’t worried about prop 3 failing because he has a medical Marijuana card. Like, dude, you’re a brown man on a list of Marijuana consumers and the modern day nazis just got elected and now wield the fbi and DEA with no guardrails. He’s fucked and he refuses to see it.

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      Don’t forget that the Latino vote for Trump went from 25% to 45%.

      The dumb bastards voted themselves into being deported and don’t think Stephen Miller is going to have a soft spot for people here legally.

      Hes gonna come for them all.

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        It blows my mind. But it’s the reality. In an ideal world every minority should be against Trump. But this isn’t the world we live in. There is a huge amount of immigrants who are coming from ultra conservative society.

        Some latino who are well established will happily kick the ladder so that other can’t come in.

        So it’s not super surprising. Homophobia and racism isn’t only a white people’s thing.

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          For real. ~45% of them deserve to be round up into camps or deported. That’s what they voted for, after all.

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            *the monkeys paw curls

            45% of the Latino population in the us that voted for Harris are deported. Or they just somehow sink Puerto Rico.

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        There’s a lot of christian fundamentalists among them too, and I think the “sitting out of it” could have affected that demographic too.

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        This is sort of beside the point you’re making, but a lot of 1st/2nd generation Latinos still look down on immigrants. “We did it the hard way, so they should have to as well” similar to bootstrap mentality.

        It’s some real mental gymnastics, but I’ve had several latina girlfriends over the years and some of their families were poor or super well off, but they openly hated Mexicans and/or Puerto Ricans.

        That number isn’t really that surprising.

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          Aaaah Cuban expats. Welcomed with open arms often getting to jump the line. So much hardship. So much effort. So much privilege and entitlement.

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        Well technically I don’t think you can vote to deport yourself since you need to be a citizen to vote federally.

        Now voting to have your friends and family removed, now we’re cooking!