• ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    kindly save your “I told you so” and “trolley problem” bullshit for after Trump has allowed Israel to slaughter a larger number of children than Biden did for the past 13 months.

    Why wait? What happens then, you wave a magic wand and all of a sudden it’s rainbows and lollipops?

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      1 month ago

      What happens then is that I will be responding to a moral argument based in facts, and not a fucking hypothetical that may as well be an excuse for genocide. If in 13 months the Trump administration has aided Israel in the slaughter of another 100,000 children, we can start talking about how voting Democrats as “damage mitigation” is a duty to humanity. Until then I will try my best to assume you’re making the argument in good faith and that you truly believe that ending genocide is a moral priority.

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        Lol Trump was extremely happy to take part in the SuperGenocide in Yemen. If you think Biden’s aid for the Gaza attack is bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

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          Not just a genocide, but a SuperGenocide! Wow!

          One that began under Obama-Biden. The US played a similar but far limited role in the starvation of Yemen. It did not veto any UN resolutions, threaten the ICC or the ICJ, invite Bin Salman for unprecedented, record-breaking applause and ovations at Congress.

          A nation-wide civil war that has raged for nearly ten years and where numerous sides are responsible for the death count. I should know, because I spent many nights in 2018-2019 with my Hadhrami friends discussing this war, joined their call-ins with Yemeni politicians and civil activists. I heard them complain about who they know died and who killed them.

          And yet you sit here and tell me “buckle up, if you didn’t like Biden working overtime to slaughter 100,000 children within a year”, followed by hypotheticals. Stop telling me what may happen just because you cannot defend what has happened.

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            far limited role

            Lol. They were not only supplying them the bombs, they were refueling the bombers in flight and even bombing by themselves. If you already agree the US is culpable for the deaths in Gaza, imagine how you’ll feel if Trump adds those two ingredients to the party once more

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              No one in the Middle East conducts an aistrike without American or Russian help, except maybe Turkey. This is the last time I’ll ask you to stop weighing the corpses of Gaza’s children murdered by the Biden-Bibi alliance against “imagine this” and “imagine that.” You are not going to excuse Biden, Harris or for that matter Obama.

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          Trump was also perfectly happy to use COVID against Americans who didn’t support him when it was primarily in places with high population density.

          Anyone who thinks he’ll be better for Gaza is a god damned moron.

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            Nobody thinks he’ll be better, but there’s literally no way to be worse for Gaza than Biden was and Harris was going to be.

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            It can always get worse. Thinking otherwise is naive and privileged at best. Attempts at diplomacy and pushing for a cease fire even if it’s not immediately effective is absolutely better than “there’s no such things as Palestinians” and taking all the restrictions off Israel.