• Psythik@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    I’m no Apple fanboy (never owned a product of theirs and never will) but to be fair, those two USB-C ports can do everything the old, removed ports can do and more. The real crime here is not putting enough of them on the laptop.

    Edit: The only port I’ll lament the removal of is the headphone jack. USB-C headphones are rare, adapters get lost, and bluetooth headphones compress the audio and have input lag. Everything else can go, though, and won’t be missed. (Okay fine ethernet can stay too.)

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    29 days ago

    I’m good with it to be honest. One port that can do it all. Not proprietary.

    The longer we keep including legacy ports the longer they’ll stick around on peripheral devices

    Manufactures won’t change until forced. The transition period might be a bit painful, but worth it.

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      29 days ago

      Almost everything I have has a USB A or a DE-9 plug. I don’t have a single peripheral that plugs into a USB C port. I don’t want to deal with dongles and I’m certainly not going to replace my perfectly good hardware.

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        29 days ago

        Eh, it’s been a standard for nearly a decade now. We’d still be on DVI with this attitude.

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        29 days ago

        You don’t have to replace anything, but you will have to buy a cheap USB-C -> USB-A dongle

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      29 days ago

      USB-C is fairly open, and USB4 can do most things Thunderbolt 3/4 can do, but there are exceptions like daisy-chaining. Thunderbolt 5 is also out now, and it has no open counterpart. And Thunderbolt is very much proprietary, requiring licensing and certification from Intel.

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      But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.

      Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard. If you’re lucky, the capabilities are printed right on the device or in the manual. If you’re unlucky you’ll have to figure it out yourself.

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        29 days ago

        But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.

        I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.

        Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard.

        It’s definitely not as good as it should’ve been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.

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          I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.

          That’s why I want my computer to have both.

          It’s definitely not as good as it should’ve been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.

          Until it doesn’t.

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          29 days ago

          Didn’t they have issues with previous MBPs where they’d charge slower on one side than on the other without apple acknowledging it?

          But that aside Apple is pretty good ad supporting mostly everything. Other manufacturers are way worse in that regard.

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      29 days ago

      The big issue in my eyes is that they cut down on ports period. Yeah sure you can do it all. Here’s 2 ports for your trouble. There’s not a meaningful amount of them after. My current personal laptop has 2 USB a, one type c, HDMI and microsd. My work laptop is the same, but flipped usba and c. That’s fine for a lot of people, including myself. But then you look at other machines like the xps 13 Plus which has like 2. Or a MacBook air. Which also has 2 but at least you get a headphone jack.

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        29 days ago

        When a port is extremely high bandwidth, the number of them stops mattering much. I’m plugging everything into a dock via a single cable anyways, the rest go largely unused. We used to need a dozen ports because each one could only handle a single task and all were relatively low bandwidth.

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    29 days ago

    Asus G16 2023 has 2 USB-A, 2 USB-C (one of them supports Thunderbolt), Ethernet, HDMI, 3.5 mm jack, and a micro-SD slot.

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    29 days ago

    USB-C does a lot of heavy lifting. Also, MagSafe™ is still there. A little surprised there is also a SD card slot. And a HDMI port. Not complaining about their inclusion, and I do use them regularly, but why did the dongle company give these to us?

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    28 days ago

    to be fair, the bandwidth of all the ports on the bottom laptop probably fit in 1 (maaaaybe 2? Just spitballing here) Thunderbolt 5 ports depending how fast the ethernet port is. BTW, why would you want a port that isn’t reversible like USB C lol…

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    27 days ago

    Why not complain about them not having a floppy drive anymore while you’re at it? That’s as obsolete as the non USB-C ports.

  • FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    All you need is a couple of USB-C ports and maybe a HDMI port on most modern laptops. More is good but not a requirement.

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    29 days ago

    This pic leaves out the latest generation of MacBook that brings back some of those ports.

    I guess OP would rather generate outrage upvotes, rather than spread the truth.

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    29 days ago

    And look how much thinner. A large part of that is the need for physical ports which although they may loom small on the outside, also take up space inside for the boards that convert signals. Now those conversions happen in the dongles if needed.

    The real problem is that USB didn’t implement a hub standard so most hubs have had to use old hub standards and just have a single USB-C connector and the rest USB-A, hdmi, etc. There haven’t been many purely USB-C to USB-C hubs to allow for connecting lots of USB-C devices to a single port and usually they end up losing features or splitting bandwidth instead of sharing the full bandwidth.