For example, I don’t use TikTok. I never have, and I never will, and I’d advise everyone else to get off the platform too. I genuinely believe it’s objectively harmful to people’s mental health and possibly even a threat to democracy. That said, I also believe people should be free to decide for themselves whether they want to use it or not, which is why I’m against the U.S. government banning it.
I think all drugs should be legal. I think using most of them is a bad idea.
I think the usage of all drugs should be legal, but I don’t think the sale or the production of all drugs should be legal.
Stop arresting people who are addicted to the stuff and just arrest the people who are spreading it around.
And no arresting people for “intent to sell” just because they have a lot. Do some actual detective work and catch them actually selling it.
The illegality of production and sale makes the drugs far more likely to be adulterated or a concentration other than advertised, which kills people. Prohibition causes black markets, which leads to people resolving disputes through violence since they can’t use the courts.
Legalization would make all of that go away, almost instantly.
I’ve been saying this for years. Not only that but once legal and in the regular market, companies are held liable for any additives not clearly labeled. No cutting your heroin with fentanyl unless you label it as such (bonus points if you have to give ratios of each ingredient) but aren’t on the hook if someone goes against label usage.
This protects both the consumer and provider.
Similarly, we should fully legalize prostitution. Want to kill the sex trafficking problem? Legalize prostitution, allow the workers to unionize, get legal support, and other securities that the normal blue and white collar workers have.
In a win for unionizing sex work (albeit in a different form than prostitution), a group of strippers in a Portland Oregon strip club have unionized!
That’s actually fucking dope. Anyone know how the union is doing ~1 year later?
I can’t speak to that, though I tried to look them up and find out but there are just a couple of articles from a year ago. But they basically just joined a much larger union of 50k+ actors and stage workers. I imagine they’re making headway.
Yes, I omitted that I didn’t think all production should be illegal but it should require standards and permits at least. No one should be producing them in a home made lab for example if they intend to sell it to others and all sales should be through pharmacies and legitimate businesses.
Yeah, what you want is called legalization.
That’s comparable to alcohol. I’d be good with that.
I am with you on this. Never tried any, and have absolutely no interest. And yet, the prohibition does more harm than good.
I argue that prohibition would’ve been more successful if it wasn’t radicalized and extreme. That is what it’s problem was and why so many were against it and it fell apart.
The number of people addicted to caffeine I have met is higher than any other drug. People openly talk about caffeine headaches around me and I’m always left wondering why they don’t just stop consuming so much of it.
Then again I also don’t understand the taking Advil/Aleve/Motrin/Aspirin/Tylenol and such all the time. I can understand taking them for irregular occurrences or even regular ones like cramps, but if a doctor isn’t telling you to take multiple pills daily, there is probably something else going on.
I’m pro choice even though I’m philosophically and morally against abortion.
To clarify I believe the woman’s right and ability to choose is more important than any opinion or argument I can muster against abortion.
As in it is far worse to have a governing body adjudicate or decide what an individual can do to their own body vs. the potential for life and or what the father might want for their unborn child.
I wish more people could differentiate between having an opinion and trying to force everyone else to live according to that opinion.
I too crave violence, yet consider it to be the worse choice at the same time. If peaceful reasoning cannot win against violence, then we’ve already lost as a civilization pursuing a higher state. Because in doing as such, no matter how far we travel, that higher state can only ultimately be violence.
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I’d argue eating meat can be done ethically though. Hunting is one way and growing your own farm animals is another.
How is killing for pleasure ethically, when you just could not do that?
You’re killing plants too remember
Getting shot by a hunter is the quickest and most ethical way for an old wild buck to die. The alternative is to either starve to death or get ripped into pieces by a predator.
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I truly believe in Scrum, as it can make a team’s work very efficient when it’s done right. Been there, done that.
Now the thing is, it forces people to actively collaborate, and I’m quite an introverted person. Also, a good Scrum workflow includes regular demo sessions (perhaps even with customers), and I absolutely hate that. But I accept it, it’s part of the game and I think it did contribute to my own self improvement as well.
IMHO Scrumban is more efficient. Proper Scrum has way too many overheads.
I would prefer to spend holidays with family but I don’t because they prefer to eat flesh and I am against animal abuse. I think it’s the right thing to do to protest this by not going but it sucks.
You could choose to subtly influence your relatives, but instead you “protest”. Pfft. Given the vegan I knew well, what you’re actually doing here is not going because you’re too grossed out by it. You know not going won’t inspire anyone to change, but you tell yourself that lie to justify it because being grossed out is not a high minded reason.
I have been requested to not talk about it.
You know not going won’t inspire anyone to change
Partner stopped going and the next year all family events were fully vegan because family prefers being together over eating flesh.
My stance on eating meat is kind of the exact opposite of what I was asking here. It’s one of the two things I continue doing despite not being able to morally justify it. Piracy is the other one.
both are easy to justify. humans share (food, culture, stories, songs, tools, etc). piracy is natural. laws that prohibit it are immoral.
as for eating meat, there is cost, convenience, and culture: for many people eschewing meat simply isn’t reasonable given their circumstances.
Vegan diets are ~16% cheaper on average in the US but even if they weren’t, a dollar a day does not justify killing someone.
no one is killing anyone for meat
can you substantiate this?
That people should try things before they fully pass judgement. I’m not particularly pro TikTok but a lot of Lemmy’s anti TilTok views are ones they’ve picked up from media parroting.
Yeah same with heroin just try it once it’s fun
Now obviously TikTok isn’t heroin, but it’s deliberately made to be addictive and I’d find it hard to believe that a given person has never seen TikTok content outside of TikTok. So it’s known garbage with known addictive properties and your question is why don’t we just give it a try before we pass judgement on how fun it is to scroll through a large quantity of that same garbage.
Also don’t forget TikTok content existed before the TikTok addiction algorithm. Early YouTube was like that before the algorithm change to promote ten minute vids. Vine existed and was rejected (thank god) by my generation. Etc. it’s not new content it’s just a new tool
Everything that is built for profit is designed for maximum retention of users i.e. addiction.
I’m not sure I follow what you mean by “I’d find it hard to believe that a given person has never seen tiktok content outside tiktok”
I’m not defending TikTok blindly here, it just annoys me when people pass judgement with pretty much zero knowledge on something except from what they’ve heard/read.
I know TikTok is flawed yes but no more or less than any other profit driven app/site. If you don’t like short form content then that’s fine, personally I think there’s a time and place for it.
Perhaps you shouldnt have said ‘without trying it’, you dont need to try TikTok to know the downsides. But theres a difference between ‘I hate TikTok because others hate it’ and ‘Ive read some studies about social media addiction and reject TikTok’
That said, Im not particularly against TikTok, but it definitely needs more regulation like any other legal drug.
Jury Nullification
That goes against your personal preferences?
Step 1: look at the question that this thread is asking
Step 2: look at my post and pretend that I am providing my answer to it
For me as well at least a little bit. I feel like there should be another option. Doesn’t really sit well with me that a handful of random people can let someone walk free even if they clearly broke the law. It’s unlikely to happen successfully but what if they are all threatened or bribed?
It has been absued against the pedons…
We just now ready to abuse it against the rich parasites 🐸
Best to do what you think is right … as for Democracy, it’s a good idea, I hope we’ll see it show up one of these days. ‘All men are created equal’ … but then someone’s gotta pick the crops.
I don’t like abortion, I have grave qualms about it. I’m also vehemently pro-choice.
until we live in a society where being pregnant and giving birth does not endanger your health, security, and social status, prohibiting abortion simply can’t be an option.
The problem here is “abortion” gets conflated with “reproductive health care”. There are all sorts of reasons a woman might require aborting a pregnancy that have nothing to do with birth control.
My daughter had an ectopic pregnancy about 10 years ago. The procedure she underwent would be considered an abortion, even though there was no chance of survival. She was concerned the procedure would affect her ability to become pregnant later. But now I have 2 year old granddaughter that loves popcorn and 3d printed flexi animals and getting bopped in the head with marshmallow toys.
I just think people should go to doctors, discuss what they think is best for their life, and do what they think is best for themselves. Doctors have licenses and review boards, those boards will see what practices are occuring and make research driven decisions on whether someone is practicing medicine in a way that is improper and revoke their license. Politicians aren’t licensed medical doctors, and shouldn’t have any say in what you and your doctor decides is the best course for you.
If someone wants to have an arm sewn onto their forehead, and a doctor discussed it with them and found somehow that was possibly the healthiest option for them, then who the fuck am I to say anything about it.
“If you have to ask if you’re the asshole, imagine what the world would like be if everyone did it.”
I firmly believe this in my core, and it applies to almost anything: standing in doorways, camping in a corner in online shooters, veering between lanes without signaling while driving, stealing, throwing trash on the ground, etc.
BUT I am far from perfect. I eat meat despite being an animal lover, I am somewhat wasteful, I can be quick to anger, I support unethical companies that I hate, and I don’t keep in touch with old friends and family. Stuff like that…
This is a very relatable comment. I think a lot of the reason I am so angry is how selfishly people act though. I think it makes me a worse person to observe that kind of shit. I’m sure the anger makes me more selfish too, ironically.
And the fact that Donald Trump won the election in America kind of proves how pathetically selfish a huge swath of Americans are. This and 2016 and 2020 shouldn’t have been anywhere near close, 10% of votes is the highest number of votes he could’ve gotten without making me upset. But people don’t give a shit about the harm to others, as long as they think they’re not being harmed…
Damn, I think you distilled it better than me: selfishness.
But someone needs to look out for the white male billionaires! What about THEIR struggles?!?
Seems like basic “golden rule” shit.
One of the few valuable biblical lessons, and coincidentally, one of the easiest to teach a person without needing any religion whatsoever.
I think many people on here, me included, would rather be using Reddit simply because of all the content.
Reddit as a site is superior to Lemmy, but ever since all the trash have flooded that place, I decided to leave. What I’m saying is that I would pbviously choose Reddit if we’d ignore the kind of people that are frequenting it, but since you can’t really ignore them when it comes to a social media, I use this site instead.
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I think I’ve seen a fuckspez account on here as well
Fuck reddit for several reasons, among them that it’s too big.
That bigness is bad in a lot of ways, but it’s great for niche content. A big platform makes big communities horrible cesspools, but it makes small obscure communities actual communities
I prefer the content, but reddit as a service is absolute garbage. I still check in on it every once in a while because there’s a question or something I see the answer to after googling it and I can’t stand browsing there for more than a minute or two.
The sponsored content and ads are just everywhere and disguised like user accounts making a post or comment and it’s infuriating. You can’t even use reddit on your phone unless you download their app, browsing the web version is practically impossible because “they can’t confirm you are over 18 for some of the content” as if they can confirm your age through the app and they don’t care if you are on desktop.
Reddit is a garbage company when it comes to their users, they quickly became one of my top most despised companies up there with nestle
I’ll be 100% transparent, should third party apps be allowed back I’d go immediately back. There just isn’t much hobby related stuff here yet. I don’t have the time or care to “be the change I wanna see”
I mean, yeah, obviously if they change the decision that made me leave I’ll go back.
I use Lemmy on mobile and (old.)reddit on desktop. They both serve their purpose and I have no complex about it.
Honestly tho it’s been downhill over there. I’m getting old reddit vibes here and I’m cool with never posting on reddit ever again.
Reddit is still better for communities based around hobbies (at the moment at least) just due to it’s shear size.
Idk why ppl can’t just Google it get the info and leave.
Not that complicated. No one is forcing you to join.
Look at the actual engagement on those hobby subreddits. Dont let the thousands of followers fool you. The big subreddits got bigger, but the smaller ones got smaller. I see niche groups with thousands of followers, but posts rarely break 100 upvotes/10 comments. Reddit is a hollowing shell right now.
I saw a post about Kids In The Hall on this site the other day. Go see how popular that is on reddit. You just gotta believe.
That’s actually a really good point.
I find discord servers are filling that in much better for me
I’m probably behind the times. How do you find stuff on discord?
Agree, hate to admit I sometimes still go there (no login) to check certain communities because they are completely dead on Lemmy.
Garbage is more entertaining than the same 5 political posts reposted between 40 instances and the only OC being posts that bitch about Reddit. This place is NOTHING like old reddit.
Sorry but not sorry, this place is borderline worthless. Until sometime figures it how to keep every sub becoming a commission echo chamber this is an interesting experiment that is dead in the water.
Then why are you here bitching about it?
Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize stating the reality precluded me from having an interest in an open protocol or interest in seeing these communications evolve.
If you hate a thing, it’s really easy to avoid it usually, particularly in this case
This is what I’m seeing here.
“Lemmy would be better if it wasn’t an echo chamber. There’s no variety in opinion.”
“Well, if you don’t agree with us you can leave!”
🤦🏻♂️
Where “agree” means “don’t find it to be a shitty platform”
Block political communities
Block !reddit@lemmy.world
And if you really think this place is worthless, why are you still here?
no one’s forcing you to be here talking about reddit
Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize stating the reality precluded me from having an interest in an open protocol or interest in seeing these communications evolve.
I guess my responding to the delusional post above was out of line and totally off topic 🙄
I interpreted “old reddit vibes” to be more about there being an actual discourse on posts more than being about the subject matter of the posts. If you look at the comments on reddit, they all just agree with each other because they’re the most popular opinions so they get the most upvotes. The thing I like about here is that I can still read that popular comment, but there are few enough total comments that scrolling down a bit leads to discussions that would have been buried in downvotes there. But since they didn’t define “old reddit vibes” I could be misinterpreting as easily as you!
This site being small really lends to the individual experience. Misinformation isn’t on max here yet.
It’s not that bad, stop being a doomer. It’s better than reddit is right now at least.
Ironic language. Didn’t be a dinner. That could fix up the place.
You do realize the entire format of reddit is designed to make “echo chambers”. Every single reddit sub is an echo chamber and users have no options. At least here people can do what they want with no one to tell them how to run their community.
The only way to stop it from being a commission echo chamber is to push back or post the opposite stuff. They don’t run many of the communities here like they do on reddit. The good thing about lemmy is getting downvoted doesn’t restrict your usage of the site so you can make unpopular opinions without getting timed out like on reddit.
And yet, it has more content and diversity 🤷♂️
The people are the problem.
yeah it does but i dont think the people are the problem. Reddit has been around long, its a for profit company. It exploded in popularity at a time when there was no competition and now its entrenched itself as a dominate site that will be almost impossible to kill.
Maybe you just need to take a break from your phone for a few hours?
Also, check out different sorting methods (like most comments 6/12 hours)
Thanks to Lemmy, I don’t feel a need to return to Reddit, but I agree that we’re still essentially in “pale imitation” territory and I’m not sure if that will ever change.
In Twitter terms, it’s like everyone left for Mastodon but are really just waiting for a Bluesky to come around. I’d prefer to keep whatever platform I use open and free, but I’d like “approachable and vibrant” along with it if possible, which Lemmy is still struggling to accomplish.
And some variety in the userbase as well. This is quite the echo chamber. Not that reddit wasn’t but Lemmy is even worse in that sense.
This is me. But fuck Reddit.
I always try to use Lemmy, but Reddit is always more attractive to me because:
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The Sync for Reddit app works way better than Sync for Lemmy (I understand there are a lot of clients for Lemmy, which is good, but my brain got so used to it that I always struggle with other apps).
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I never used Reddit to browse mainstream media (like r/all) I always browse subreddits I liked and created multi subreddits of them, some examples of them:
Handhelds (SBCgaming, 3DS, PsVita, nds, PSP etc).
Media (Piracy, Arr stack, Stremio add-ons, Kodi add-ons etc).
As you can see none of those communities or similar are particularly big, so I think they have entirely enshitified… (Maybe just r/piracy lol).
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Nah. Smaller community is better. This site reminds me of old (old old old) reddit.
I do still use reddit for porn though. Until they do away with old.reddit
I’m here for the distinct lack of content. I can browse for a bit, hit the bedrock loop of top 6hr, and come back hours later. It’s not endless here… And it shouldn’t be.
If I need info for a niche, I’ll find a forum. Lemmy, reddit, etc are poor places for such things anyway.
Right for “criminals” to vote. Laws are some kind of consensus, if you start removing people that can have an opinion on it, it slowly ends up stop being a consensus, and are more like the opinions of the ones that managed to stay afloat during the trip.
What? Criminals can be voted into the office, but cannot vote?
In some states in the US, yes.
Funny theyre still calling it democracy
I always had a moral rule about drinking and smoking weed. Fine, do whatever you like. Just don’t fucking get me involved. I’ve only ever had 3 alcoholic beverages in my entire life and I’ve firmly decided that it’s not for me. Smoking, never done that, I’ve been around smokers both weed and cigarette to say I want none of it.
Just don’t fucking get me involved.
What does this even mean? Are they pinning you down and force feeding you booze through a funnel?
Don’t drink or smoke if you don’t want to. I guarantee that nobody cares what you do.
Just going out on a limb here… but I presume they’re talking about more dogged kinds of social customs? e.g. friends, family, and depending where you live, your bosses and coworkers (Japan in the 00s I think?), can carry it as a heavy social expectation while being fine people to know otherwise.
I’m not sure it’s so black and white.
They just needed to tell everyone that they’ve only had 3 alcoholic beverages in their entire life, because we’ll all be super impressed rather than just sad for them.
I have no problem with TikTok, their owners, or the company beyond my usual concerns with corporate platforms. They’re as bad (maybe even a little less) as American corporate media.
I just stay away from it because I don’t think short form doom scrolling videos would be good for my productivity or attention span
Be advised TikTok is literally Chinese spyware on your phone. It’s collecting all sorts of data on all it’s users all the time. This is a known thing, and the initial impetus of many organizations to ban it internally
Edit: It’s not racist to point out China is currently surveilling America as hard as it can. It’s doing this as part of parralel warfare. They’ve hacked our phones, emails, servers, businesses and even individual routers - all at the behest of the Chinese government. They are afraid and it shows.
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Okay keep using the app and prove me wrong lol
Did you reply to the wrong person? I’m saying TikTok is spyware
my bad lol. It’s hard to tell sometimes
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Privacy shouldn’t exist
-internet morons
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I’ll find the tech that broke it down. He monitored the android system and say it hooks into a lot more than any other social media app. If that’s not enough, the owner and creator of tiktok has already been involved in some snooping and questionable data handling. Anyone telling you otherwise just isn’t educated enough. It needs to go 100%.
👌👍 I’ll just take his word on that. And yet the hundreds of thousands apparently worthless OCIO from every government on the planet seems to lack the ability to provide a single shed of evidence. 👍
Please post that white paper I await it eagerly.
No thanks educate yourself.
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And Facebook, X, Google apps, etc are what exactly?
They’re just as bad or worse on privacy. People throw around that “Chinese” label like it’s supposed to make it worse, somehow. Seems a bit racist to me. At least “the Chinese” aren’t feeding that data to government entities that have actual power over me.
I’ll find the tech that broke it down. He monitored the android system and say it hooks into a lot more than any other social media app. If that’s not enough, the owner and creator of tiktok has already been involved in some snooping and questionable data handling. Anyone telling you otherwise just isn’t educated enough. It needs to go 100%.
The problem with Facebook etc is that they monitor you even outside the app. TikTok is a little kid surrounded by hungry sharks of social media.
