We’re fucked. It’s as simple as that. The world has fully entered into a somehow unprecedented age of corporatocracy and the future, at least the near future, is nothing but war and economic collapse. All of it, puppeteered by the richest of the rich, who have bought their way into power.
Beyond society as a whole, we all have our personal problems. We wouldn’t be here otherwise. I can’t speak for you, but I’m poor, dougly and mentally ill with no hope of ever finding love. My only purpose in society is to avoid the light and contribute to the Gross Domestic Product until I die alone and unloved. All I ever wanted was a girl to hug and a life to call my own, but I’ll never achieve that. What exactly is the incentive to not go postal?
Let’s be honest here: None of us are going rogue. We aren’t going to grab a gun and start killing the worst of the worst, the people who have destroyed our lives and or the lives of millions, the people who have benefitted from the creation of a soulless society, the people who ruined our lives. We are cowards. We can’t do it, I certainly know I can’t. It’s best not to kid ourselves here.
But you’ve thought about it, haven’t you? We all have, right? Of making an elaborate plan to slaughter the most despicable of individuals, making our escape with years of preperation, and fleeing to the Yukon, never to be caught? Am I the only one? Haven’t you thought this?
Here’s how I think about it lately.
Just because society is falling apart, that doesn’t mean my social life needs to suck.
Nothing ever ends really, not until the last hominid gasps her last breath (and even then evolution may try again with other uplift eligible species).
Someone is going to live through this great upheaval. I predict it will be those who can build and keep good real-life networks of family, friends and general acquaintances.
Let it all burn down. I will sit by the fire with those in whom I see the image of the beloved.
You first.
I don’t understand those individual solo gunner plans when the people already have organized states and produced huge amounts of powerful missiles. Don’t do it alone, join a state.
No I haven’t. I also don’t think the past was as great as you describe, compared to the present.
When I was 3 we had martial law in Poland which was upheld for years. My parents struggled to buy land because they weren’t in the party, they could only buy my grandfathers old car which was breaking down ever second time we went anywhere.
Now that my son is 2 we got martial law in South Korea, but people fought for democracy and it was gone after 6 hours.
Because I only have one life I’m trying to get the best out of it. I switched the environment a couple of time in my life and had to start from scratch. But I never had to go to war, neither did my father, while before that every generation had a war in their country.
I’m not saying it’s good, but it’s good enough not to think about going rogue from society.
This is the interesting thing. A lot of us who feel depressed about society never actually had any real hardships. We never fought in wars, we never had martial law, never lived under oppressive governments. Yet a lot of us are just unhappy with society.
As an old man, it is …frustrating to see the ‘nothing happened before I was born’ crowd telling us the world is doomed.
It’s selfish, privileged position and a worrying sign of excess news consumption.
How is it selfish though? I think a lot of people just feel there is not much hope for society. I don’t see how that is selfish. But maybe you mean that there should be a sense of community and it’s selfish to not care about that?
Because many people are living in conditions significantly worse than OP describes ,with widespread poverty oppression and crime …. Today. And they are getting in with life, and having families, and supporting one another - not writing embittered murder fantasies on the internet.
Try telling your tale of woe to any one from Sudan, Haiti, Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Somali, Yemen, Palestine of course, and countless other war torn places, they’d just laugh.
Yep I know. I was in Peru for three weeks and I was amazed. People have nothing and live on dirt floors, yet are much happier then we are in the west.
I don’t know what’s wrong with us. Why can’t we just enjoy what we have? But I honestly look at my own life, I’m tired of working, and I want to just relax and not work anymore. And it does seem like a big problem to me, I can’t just quit and live on savings. And yet, in comparison, im being spoiled rotten to even have a job with a good income.
Why are we tired of working in the west? A lot of us are. Is it worse than our parents had it? I think so, to a degree. Some of our parents had ability to support families on a single slavery and buy houses. That’s a luxary today.
I think a lot of it is feelings of helplessness. You’re on a freight train that appears to be running straight at a cliff, you can’t stop it, you can’t even make it change course, and even with that looming in the distance, it feels increasingly hard to make the situation any better before you hit that wall. Even having proof that you can improve your circumstances can remove that feeling of helplessness, and that seems to be very much unavailable for people living their relatively comfortable, if stagnant, lives in much of the developed world. If your life isn’t where you want it to be and you don’t see a path to achieve that, it’s very hard to feel happy.
Yes, you said it very well. And we shouldnt be happy in that situation either.
Yes because when someone else’s suffering is worse it means your suffering is invalid. By that nature no one should ever bring up their trials and tribulations because someone always has it worse.
I love how OP has mass shooting fantasies and I’m getting shit.
I’ve gone rouge
I think if I know I’m gonna die and I’ve still got my marbles I’m gonna run up a whole lot of credit card debt and maybe do some things that merit more jail time than I’m gonna live.
Who does not. Right now I feel ashamed that we are just letting AI feudalism happen!
Hello, it is I, your friendly Neighborhood FBI Agent. Why don’t we have a chat sometime? 🤗
No, I have standards (and a mobility-related disability). Murder is for those without an ounce of creativity and no humanity.
Murder is for those without an ounce of creativity and no humanity.
Amerika was birthed out of egregious amounts of outright genocide, at least two of them, maybe more; fym? Unless we’re calling substantial swathes of Amerika fundamentally uncreative and fundamentally inhuman, this don’t pass the smell test
Unless we’re calling substantial swathes of Amerika fundamentally uncreative and fundamentally inhuman
Well it was uncreative and inhumane. Why would I advocate genocide? And by extension, why are we using that as a justification for more death?
I mean, if you advocate for Amerikans, that’s exactly what you’re advocating for. By saying ‘murder is for those without an ounce of creativity or humanity’, you make it sound like this is an aberrant state for Amerikan settlers; when this is just how they are and have been for 200+ years. By trying to play the “this is not who we are/this is not what we do” card, you make it sound like ‘murderous avarice’ isn’t the natural state of the westerner. It’s exceptionalism; and I find that distasteful at its most polite.
You can advocate for the good aspects of a nation and still condemn the bad ones. Never did I say I advocate “for Amerikans” in the sense that I believe in the nation unconditionally and as one construct (there’s also the fact every state in the US is different and speaks for its own voice). I condemn all needless death. Not only did Luigi’s actions amount to overkill that is itself overblown and overrated with the unrest being expressed in some unrealistic ways, but it was also a pointless one, as he simply removed a part of an entity that can regrow with another person in Thompsons’ role. Just as with the condemnable American settlers, if someone absolutely had to carry out an act of defiance, there are many options, some more roundabout/effective/considerate than others.
Stop being selfish and get some help.
Interesting thoughts, but who is really willing to risk their life, family, and passion for that? I keep thinking I want change but also will never have internal peace by being worried about the state of the world…
No I haven’t.
No. I just want to live my life, surrounded by others that want to live theirs.
I cannot get away from those that cannot accept that. Putin, Kim, Desantis, and others make it impossible.
So, I put up with the dicks to keep the assholes away.
It’s hard to imagine that if you don’t live in rather small North Korea, which is heavily sanctioned, that Kim can somehow affect your life…
Putin, Kim, Desantis
??? there is no way you are impacted by all three of these people. at least two of them have likely never interacted with your life in any way
We are cowards.
Speak for yourself. I live in a country that tacitly despises, oppresses, enslaves, and murders people like me for shits and giggles if not for the raw labor potential that would’ve been stripped from them by Emancipation. I’m waiting til I have nothing to lose, and nothing to gain but a lifetime of slavery; 'cause I still have things to lose right now. Hoping I eventually clear the cost to renounce citizenship and one-way myself somewhere where the people living there aren’t literally incentivized to see me as an escaped slave; preparing for all other cases.
