Considering to buy one for a family member.
I personally know multiple people who did
Yes. I switched to vaping after smoking a pack a day for ten years. Then in about a year I was able to winnow my usage down and quit vaping too.
I had tried many times to quit before that. Have not smoked in 13 years now and after about 8 years I stopped liking the smell.
Crazy hearing vaping helped you stop 13 years ago. My brain tells me they only came out 2 years ago…
Naw there were vapes when i went to high school in the mid to late 2000s.
Vaping blew up around 2010 and gradually increased in popularity until all of the Juul controversies happened. Since all of the laws passed to restrict it more, it is now easier to get a non-reusable piece of ewaste than reusable and refillable stuff.
While it may not stop the nicotine addiction. It beats the tar and crap actual cigarettes…
Agreed. Although I struggle with vaping nicotine WAY too much and I feel like it has caused me some issues.
Still, way better than real cigs as far as my lungs are concerned - but the ease of being able to vape and constantly get a nicotine fix has been the real issue for me. Currently reading Alan Carr’s the Easy Way to get this monkey off my back once and for all.
Absolutely, there is no mistaking vaping is bad for you. But there are levels of bad.
Additionally, there has not been enough legit science data to indicate how bad it is.
The biggest risk we see (outside the risks that are the same as those from cigarettes but less severe) is circulatory health risks (vessel function). Sure, you have increased risk of respiratory disease, but not nearly as bad as cigarettes. The real benefit is that most vaporizers and eliquids are not carcinogenic (directly cancer causing) the way cigarette smoking is, so you can lose the added chance of getting cancer while titrating nicotine dosage down to nothing over a longer period; one of the main failure points of nicotine gums and patches is that they aren’t effective methods for pack-a-day smokers, the usual suggested regimens have them in withdrawal headaches and brain fog quickly and many smokers quit quitting on week one or two.
We have dozens of ten year studies with HUGE N already. Read them. Check out the REPRIEVE trial data. If you seriously think every single one of the currently available studies and trial results are not “legit science data” you’re insane.
Uh huh.
Willful ignorance is the most disappointing feature of humanity
Not ignorant to utter bullshit to support any vape use. I’m sure you’re a schill for one of those products.
I switched to vape, not necessarily to drop nicotine, but so i could smoke in company vehicles. I haven’t stopped vaping for a few years now.
I’m in no way saying the habit is healthy or nice, but there’s still a net positive to switching even if you don’t end up stopping.
It’s cheaper overall. A little over a pack a day is basically $10/day. I probably spend $60 on juice and $10 for coils in a month, and that’s a high estimate. One coil can last a few months sometimes, other times they’re duds. The initial cost is what can look expensive. $100 for a good rig, but it can last years if you get the right one. (I save money by using a rig that takes 18650 batteries and scavenge them from dead electronics - they’re everywhere, power tool batteries, hoverboards, etc. Otherwise it’s an extra $10 every 6 months)
It also doesn’t dry me out like cigarettes. Cigarettes used to cause my sinuses to bleed in the morning and just clog my sinuses through the day. Vape keeps me a little more hydrated it feels like, like even the cough is more fluid and comes right up. No more dry coughing at all.
Don’t even get me started with the smell.
It’s worth mentioning too, there’s a difference between the nic salts and the juice. The salts are where you can experience OD and even seizures.
Yep, my wife. Smoked since childhood, tried many times to quit, finally managed using a vape. I started with a strong enough mix to match the daily nicotine intake, we left it like that for almost a year, then I started lowering it by 10% every month. Once we got to 20% is started dropping by 5% and then just 1% from 5% down. That said, the process being so gradual made it smooth and less disruptive.
Not fully but I just don’t carry a pack anymore. Vaping is much better in my personal experience
Yep. I moved from smoking to vaping. It became a bit of a hobby but I quit that too after a few years just by lowering the nicotine bit by bit and ended up just not using it when the habit was no longer fuelled by addiction.
Yes. Switched to vaping and was vaping for multiple years before quitting completely. Biggest thing was the “safety” of always being able to have my fix without an actual smoke. The “never again” mentality made it so hard to ditch the cancer stick but the vape was always like “it’s ok, you can just have a little puff whenever you feel like it”. Slowly down the nicotine content. Puff less. Even less. At some point I just forgot. Still have the vape. Still have the liquid, albeit it’s dark red now and looks radioactive so utterly unusable. But point is that the vape eventually faded into irrelevance in a way that cigarettes never could.
Unusable… or will get you high AF?
Vaping is not healthier too.
Why no just quit smoking or drugs using some old methods?
Doesn’t sound like a good gift.
? I mean quiting smoking and stuff.
Vaping is not healthier too.
Vaping is absolutely healthier than smoking. It’s not healthier than “neither smoking nor vaping.” But it’s so much closer to “neither smoking nor vaping” on the health scale than “smoking” that it’s absurd to say it isn’t healthier.
If it was that simple, no one would smoke… i feel like you have never been addicted to smoking.
I don’t personally know one person who did. They just moved onto doing both
Check out SmokeFree.gov! It has great free resources that are science based. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do for their health.
The most effective methods to quit smoking include varenicline (aka Chantix), FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, inhaler, etc), and behavioral therapy. Combining all of these therapies in a clinical trials results in the most people quitting.
No vape is FDA-approved as a cessation therapy, because no company has applied. There have been some small academic run trials, which tend to show a decrease in smoking, but continued nicotine addiction. Probably because vapes have much higher nicotine content than FDA-approved therapies. While vapes expose people to a lot less carcinogens than smoke, there are some carcinogens and nicotine itself is harmful to vascular and mental health. So if the evidence-based methods don’t work, completely switching to vaping would be less harmful.
Agreed. There is a lot of new research on vaping. Could potentially cause a number of issues, but probably still better than actual smoking. I’ve heard the inhalers work sometimes because of the nicotine as well as the physical movements involved.
I’ve also seen exactly one ad (on YouTube) for some sort of flavour inhaler (no nicotine) if you’re having trouble with the physical aspect. Can’t say any more about that though, as I haven’t looked into it.
Those are bullshit. Look at the cessation success rate of those methods, and then look at vape. Vape is almost 70% success rate, and those other methods are like 3%. The tobacco companies own most of those methods. Don’t listen to some stupid sponsored study for this, listen to the people who have done it. Vaping is a successful cessation method, and all of the attempts to ban it have been driven by lobbying & dark money from the tobacco companies.
I look at independent randomized controlled trials, not anecdotal evidence. Here’s a recent trial from Finland that didn’t have industry funding. They compared low-nicotine vaping vs varenicline alone vs placebo. Both varenicline and vaping resulted in about 40% of people quitting at 12 weeks, and 20% of placebo group. So add nicotine replacement therapy and behavioral therapy on top of varenicline and the rates should go higher. Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies sell most of the FDA-approved cessation therapies, and in comparison the big tobacco companies sell vapes.
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If you mean “replaced cigarettes with a vape,” I did
No they just made my nicotine addiction worse.
The gum worked, though. Started with the 4mg dose, dropped down to two; by the time I worked my way down to an 8th of a piece of a time, I thought to myself, “wait, do I really need to be doing this?” and that was it.
Haven’t craved nicotine since 2018.
Many smokers don’t know that nicotine salt (or nicsalt) is horrendously addictive compared to freebase nicotine. And nicsalt is the primary form of nicotine in tobacco and some vapes. Cigarette companies sneakily add more to the rolling paper to make cigarettes more addictive.
It is orders of magnitude more difficult quitting nicsalt. It’s why many people who successfully quit recommend starting with stronger freebase nicotine vapes or lower nicsalt and then trying to scale back from there eventually moving to freebase.
Nicsalt is so addictive you can be going into withdrawal while vaping freebase nicotine.
Edit: gums use Nicotine polacrilex which was engineered to increase bioavailability over freebase. Most gums and patches are hard to quit because manufacturers offer no guidance on tapering dosage although you figured this out on your own. You’re smart.
To stop smoking I will smoke something else. A better logic would be, I’ll use something that can have a reduced nicotine content.
The logic is flawed here because vapor and smoke are completely different things. You wouldn’t conflate the steam coming off a pot of boiling water with the charred remains of that frozen pizza you forgot about in the oven an hour ago would you?
That’s what’s so great about vapes, you can precisely chose the nicotine content. You might go up a bit in nicotine when you switch from smoking to vaping to ease the transition. But after that you can easily tweak the nicotine content to lower it bit by bit until you reach 0.
I did, but I also wanted to quit. No one quits a substance they don’t want to quit.
That’s why I left Reddit and why I’m still on Lemmy!
