Since the election I’ve kinda buried my head in the sand to try and stay sane, so I’m not sure what projections are looking like for the real estate market. Unfortunately I need to move pretty ASAP and I’m having the worst luck with rentals.
So, anyone have any advice or an idea of the outlook in the next few months?
I went with buying raw land out of the city, for me it’s a 30 minute drive and no traffic, my “rent” is under $200 for the year of property taxes. I own the land for less than 1 year of rent.
I can live in an RV, and I can build a house or convert a shed to live in so it’s super affordable, plus I have room for a garden to feed my family.
I’m not trying to step on your comment, but I read this as unrealistic? It sounds like you bought land, but don’t actually live on it currently. Like, you CAN live in an RV, but what are you actually doing with it now? Again, not trying to be a dick. I actually considered the exact same, but once we started crunching numbers on what we wanted, just buying the land and building on it was out of our budget.
It really really depends on the county and it’s rules, there are a few counties near here that have permits to live in an RV, the county I am in is a bit more restrictive and requires a building permit to have an RV.
Right now we are camping in the car as we wait for the septic, since it’s holidays things are a bit slow now.
For anyone considering this, check your zoning laws. Years ago, to save money, I wanted to buy some land and put a trailer on it so I could save up to build something more permanent.
The laws did not permit that. Nor living in an RV. Or living in your car. We had to fight to get tiny houses here IIRC, but the cost savings for those isn’t as big as I would have hoped. (And being disabled, being able to do a lot of the work to save money wasn’t an available option.)
Yes the county rules are very important, there’s only a few counties that allow this. I moved to a state that allows us to live in an RV and to build our own house out of almost any materials.
Tough to call. Prices are high right now, who knows when they’ll come down. I look at it like this: my sister just bought a house for $120k and her mortgage payment is less than what she was paying for renting half a house. If the real estate market bottoms out tomorrow, her house value may drop and her mortgage payment stays the same. If she had stayed in the rental her rent would have stayed the same. After the lease expired the rent might have increased but the mortgage stays the same.
Not answering your question. But if you do buy, don’t listen to the realtor or loan officer about how big a loan you can afford. Both are incentivized to sell you the biggest house/loan. Neither will care when you’re struggling to pay for it.
You’re monthly payment plus insurance plus taxes should be something you could safely pay for six months while unemployed. If that’s impossible, get a small house. The worst possible situation is being house poor.
You gotta judge the market in that area. I saw people buy at the wrong time, during a bubble.
I know your pain. I had the same problem in 2013.
Everyone said it was a horrible time to buy a house, “The rates/prices are too high, wait a bit” but I also couldn’t afford to get an apartment that wasn’t a roach motel for less than $1k per month, so I bought a house anyways. Now I’m laughing with my $750 USD mortgage while the idiots who kept telling me it was a horrid time to buy a house are bitching about their apartment leases that keep going up each year and paying out 1.5k to 2k per month in rent.
Renting really only makes sense if you know you are going to be moving a good distance frequently over the next several years. If you have a steady job you are planning on staying at for a while, better to buy. You can always rent it out if life changes your plans for you.
Set a time frame by which you want to move in, and a budget roughly 2 times but not more than 4 times your annual gross income and see what you can find for that in that time frame.
When my wife and I bought our house I was making roughly $50k a year, so we were looking at the $100k-$150k price point but wound up finding our home at $90K. Not a palace by any stretch and it needed a new roof, but it’s been a great house. Basing our budget off just my income and aiming for the lower side of 2-4x income has allowed us to stay in our home even when me or my wife was out of work for a bit.
Look and see if there are any programs for first time home buyers in your area also. I forget exactly what program we qualified for but we were able to get our mortgage for $0 down at the added expense of mortgage insurance. It cost me more per month (and over all) than it would have if I had had the traditional 20% down but TANSTAFL.
Make sure you get a fixed rate mortgage though and not an adjustable rate one. I’ve a sneaking suspicion that rates may wind up going back up in a few years and such a roller coaster has cost more than one person I know their home.
Whatever bad luck you’re having with rentals is nothing compared to how badly home ownership can go, renting isn’t all that bad even if it is more expensive. What’s really expensive and financially distressing is a sudden and expensive furnace / roof replacement, flooding, fire, the list goes on
Mortgages aren’t going away anytime soon, start off with renting and see where that takes you before jumping into a $400,000+ loan
Well that’s a super nuanced answer though.
IF OP can afford a house AND can keep enough emergency savings to deal with an issue, it may still be better to buy. Rental money is just gone forever in exchange for not assuming any risk on the property, but it retains no value.
If OP can’t afford to buy at all, this post is stupid, so the question is really if there’s no money left for emergencies. In which case, the obvious answer is keep renting because a single point of failure pushing you out of your house is a bad proposition.
If there’s SOME money… It just depends on the house. Some of the failure points are covered by inspection, but it could be risky. Better to not max out your ability to borrow if at all possible.
First few years are spent in interest so it’s also going straight to the bank
Equity is uncertain in this market, especially with unexpected maintenance
Rent comfortably for a few years is still the better choice, buying a house now that might fall in price is a terrible risk
Depends how much money you have an the mortgage length you pick. Every payment covers some principle and some interest. There is no situation where you get a house and then just pay interest. This is a lack of understanding of how payments work.
The first few years are overwhelmingly paid towards interest and not the principal, it’s not an equal ratio throughout the mortgage. I think you missed some fine print
If you get into a mortgage then sell in 2 years you would have paid off less than 2 years worth of payments to the principal and you’re not getting that money back, that’s straight to the bank
“The first few years go to interest” and “the first few years are overwhelmingly paid toward interest” are not the same thing. The shorter the term, the smaller the total amount of interest paid is (and often the better the rates), and the more principal only payments you can make the lesser the interest paid.
Of course interest fraction is different by payment, but it’s not as though the first payments you make are a lost cause: mortgage payments are always contributing to your ownership, rent payments never are. It’s only a question of liquidity in the moment. Depending on the OPs situation rent could be more than a mortgage payment, in which case I know which I’d rather pay (as long as I could afford the insurance) if I wasnt planning to move right away.
A question of liquidity over decades with the liability of a big repair, and all for the hope of building equity and not paying rent in 20+ years
I’m paying more in rent than many of my friends with mortgages yet somehow their payments are shooting up with the rate changes, things are constantly needing repair and they’re stressed beyond belief
Not a problem here in the states: mortgage rates are fixed. Also once you put some equity in, you can usually leverage it. But it really depends on your personal circumstances.
No one knows.
But, if rates suddenly drop you can always refinance.
The Trump administration had a few ideas on how to fix the market, which boiled down to removing regulations. The Harris administration had a more complete plan that addressed housing costs at different angles including regs but we no ont be getting that plan anytime soon.
Don’t forget refinancing is not free, often $10000 usd+ to refinance with application, origination, title, and other fees
Great advice in the other comments, so I’ll only add this - with this being your first house, if you can afford it, do a multifamily unit or a property that can be used as multifamily. Nearly everywhere is in a housing shortage, so you’ll be able to get a good win win with some renters that can help pay your mortgage faster while they have an affordable place to live. Best if the units can be fully separated so less drama.
How long will you live there? Generally 7 years is a good rule of thumb for rent vs buy. Selling is more hasstle and expense. 7 years of no rent increases (read inflation, and your raises) and some principal paydown mean typically your have done better. However that is a guess. Sometimes even one year is better to buy, sometimes 15 years is needed (new roof and other major evpenses) just to break even.
Wish I could help but economic things have not made sense to me since 2016
You’re not gonna see a huge drop in prices. You might see better rates, but you can refinance. Presuming you’re not trying to sell the house in the next few years, now is as good a time as any to buy. Housing will continue to be more expensive, except in the case of market crash, but even then the prices will continue to go up after leveling out.
There’s a saying that goes along the lines of: “The best time to buy a house was 10 years ago. The second best time is now”. Rates are bad but you can refinance down the road. I was also on the fence because I wasn’t 100% sure yet if we’ll still be in our city in 5 years, but our lease was ending and I was getting tired of moving with ever increasing rent. Back in my home country, you typically buy a house and live there forever, so it was also a culture shock for me to learn that the average homebuyer in the US lives in their house for only 7 years before moving on. So I had to change my mindset, and we bought a house earlier this year.
I have no idea about the situation in the US but normally prices will always go up because inflation. Sometimes the price will flatline or go down for a bit because of lower interest rate on a loan but the also more people want to buy. More buyers == higher prices.
Some time ago I heard a story about a couple buying a house in the 80s in a big city for an extreme high price. Now that house is worth 20x more than it used to be.
But then again, I have no idea about the situation in your country. In my country even the cheapest houses are made to last at least 80 years.
Things are only seemingly getting worse. I’d say buy while you can still afford to and there is inventory, who knows what kind of crazinesss is coming to the economy after January.
If things get too wild, sellers will remove inventory, only making both rent and existing inventory prices increase.
Maybe, but in another, more civilized country than the US.
