Matthew Livelsberger, a 37-year-old Green Beret from Colorado Springs, Colorado, also wrote in notes he left on his cellphone that he needed to “cleanse” his mind “of the brothers I’ve lost and relieve myself of the burden of the lives I took.” Livelsberger served in the Army since 2006 and deployed twice to Afghanistan.
“This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wake up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives,” Livelsberger wrote in one letter found by authorities and released Friday.
I mean, we live inside of bullshit town, so it’s less unbelievable each day that something like the following is actually true:
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They killed a guy or the guy decided to “die for the cause” as a cult member
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Remotely drove his dead body in a cybertruck (like the fake FSD “taxi” demonstration from musk the other month)
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Parked at decrepit old trump hotel with arrival and lobby area in desperate need of repair, but in a place that would assure press coverage for brand and to stoke bases’s victimhood complex
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Remotely detonated explosive when it was clear of most people and in a way that was loud and showy, but without extreme loss of life
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Cops at first won’t name cybertruck directly as involved vehicle as they “investigate” and then immediately cop starts talking in specific detail (uncharacteristic of cops) mentioning truck by name and how that specific brand model truck contained blast probably
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Weird press articles about musk response being a “masterclass” in crisis management PR
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trump will fundraise a lot off of the “attack” and also make a huge fraudulent insurance claim ridiculously inflating costs of ruined assets and remodeling "there was van Gogh in the lobby, you couldn’t see it, but it was there
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dead person’s writings will serve to radicalize more nutjobs ready for the slaughter as soon as their divorce finalizes.
(Keep in mind that while you were reading all that, musk is on Twitter now admitting, after being publicly caught and humiliated, that he has had fake Twitter accounts for years where he personally goes to his own posts and comments on how great he is, to himself, as the world’s richest person, on paper.)
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Found the reason why.
The writings found on Sergeant Livelsberger’s phone suggest that he had been increasingly concerned about politics. In one note shared by the police, Sergeant Livelsberger said that people should “try peaceful means first but be prepared to fight” to get Democrats out of the federal government.
So this isn’t necessarily a problem with Trump, this guy was just another “democrats are the problem with the Real America™” Republican that happened to have mental issues driving him to be a suicide bomber.
He wasn’t even anti-Musk, he seems to have worshipped the authoritarian.
In another, he said that “masculinity is good and men must be leaders,” adding that people should rally around Mr. Trump and Elon Musk, Tesla’s chief executive and a top donor to the Trump campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/us/las-vegas-tesla-explosion-soldier-ptsd-notes.html
Consider us… Woke
My Elon-brainwashed relative alerted me to the fact that on twitter, the main rumor is that he killed himself to bring attention to the drone sightings being a secret Chinese gravitic propulsion technology.
God I hate that site.
Obviously an excellent reason to kill one’s self. And he made his reasoning so clear too.
I have been enlightened!
Now, there’s probably some twisted reasoning that got someone to that conclusion. I wonder how it worked.
Twitter doesn’t exist anymore. It’s Xitter. It’s full of xeets.
I prefer to deadname the site.
Honestly, the only deadnaming I can get onboard with. Although I do like referring to tweets as Xcrements now though.
That doesn’t even make any sense, but I’m not surprised.
Not to be a big asshole or anything, but we’ll forget about this by Monday.
No, they’ll keep overanalyzing and rehashing every detail, because it keeps Luigi Mangione out of the news.
That makes me wonder if that’s why he did it.
“If I blast myself for GOP causes writ large, I will be the new Famous Martyr!”
I mean, nobody remembers that guy that blew himself up in Nashville either. That was in the news for 2 days and everyone moved on.
Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-immolation_of_Aaron_Bushnell
It’s unfortunate for those who self-immolate as an anti-war or anti-genocide protest, but it just doesn’t seem like it works because the public just doesn’t care enough to remember them for long, so it is not effective as a form of protest.
I remember. That shit shook me for weeks. Sometimes I still think of his burning body.
Burning yourself won’t stop Israel, sure. But it gets people involved. It got me involved.
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I cared before too. There is a difference between passively engaging in BDS and pouring your heart and soul into a movement.
Edit: I felt the need to elaborate.
For a very long time I followed the boycott and donated what I could. Genocide is atrocious, but what else could I do? I lived in the middle of bumfuck nowhere; There weren’t exactly any movements nearby I could get involved in.
I then saw a man from bumfuck nowhere drive all the way to the Israeli Embassy and burn himself alive. I realised there was a whole lot of things I could do.
I also moved to Ireland, so I got a lot more opportunities to act on my sentiments.
We’ve had like five major events in 3 days. I can’t blame anyone for missing one or two of them.
Saturday is only the 4th day of 2025.
We all know that a certain orange someone will write this off as just another sucker and loser gone.
US: “5 more minutes, Dad.”
whatever that shit didn’t wake me up at all
Ikr, I was late to work because of it. Smdh
“Woke”
Why are they withholding exactly what he meant with his list of grievances? Probably because its’s right wing AF, he’s white, and had lots of guns. When are they going to play the “mental illness angle?
Mental illness? Ah yes because blowing yourself up is a totally normal thing for a totally normal person. Nope. No mental illness here at all.
At this point it’s pretty clear that if you’re a Trump and musk lover you have mental illness.
Point being that it’s “mental illness” when it comes to right wingers doing shitty, bizarre things. It’s terrorism or some kind of “typical” behavior associated with whatever dirt they can dig up on a left-leaning perp. Luigi being a prime example - he gets called a terrorist, Livelsberger probably won’t be despite his attack being plainly politically motivated.
Just based on what was said up top, there’s a pretty good chance this guy had some pretty bad mental health problems. That doesn’t mean he’s wrong.
They’re trying to portray him as some fallen hero with PTSD because of his military service (plus his whiteness and white name). Yes, it does look like he absolutely had PTSD. But that doesn’t cause people to try to suicide bomb hotels.
“It’s just a tragic case of suicide”. Yeah. So are suicide bombings. Same thing here. He was an extremist and he did this to bring attention to his extremist ideologies.
This isn’t mental illness; this is terrorism.
I mean, he’s got regrets about lives he took, so chances are he realised he’s been lied to his whole life and has done terrible things “for his country”.
But maybe I’m being too optimistic here. We really need news agencies to release the full letter instead of selectively quoting. They did the same with Luigi Mangione until Ken Klippenstein released the entire thing. Hopefully he gets his hands on this one as well.
We really need news agencies to release the full letter instead of selectively quoting.
Well I can see why morally they wouldn’t release anything at all, since doing that effectively says “if you kill a bunch of people you will get your voice heard”. But I don’t think that’s what’s stopping them.
Nonetheless, we allegedly have most of the info about Luigi and unsurprisingly the press is painting him as a disaffected rich kid and now a terrorist by the courts. Yet when these right wingers get infamy, like the Las Vegas shooter, the Trump attempted assassination shooter, or even this event, their leanings are buried and obfuscated by the press using terms like mental illness or other problems in their lives as rationalizations for their actions.
That could be their argument, but it’s be a bad one while making so much money by parading this around. If that were truly why they weren’t releasing it then they’d try to keep this as quite as possible, along with school shooters and all the rest.
Yeah, I don’t disagree.
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But what lie does he think he was being told? If he expected a quid pro quo for his sacrifices and problems, what was he expecting in return? Good VA benefits, a social safety net, and affordable, accessible mental health care? Somehow I don’t see these benefits being an expectation when being a “patriot” and a “Trump supporter” as they are antithetical to Trump and the republican MO in general. Was he expecting an authoritarian that would shut the libs up, deport everyone, and make harmless tariffs to punish our economic enemies? Who knows, and we probably won’t unless they release everything he’d written about his opinions leading up to this event.
“Not a terrorist attack” – um detonating a bomb in a public place to get attention for a political purpose is basically the definition of a terror attack. Using fear to stop your opponents from opposing your favored political despots. Not to mention that even if there weren’t many injuries, the people who breathed the fumes from those batteries burning likely will develop cancer including the firefighters. And the cost of cleaning that up falls on the people who live there. Not exactly a beneficial act.
The media treating this as a patriotic act is just going to encourage copycats. And this guy was a bomb expert, but failed to realize that the temperatures he was creating would vaporize the fireworks, not shoot them off. If an expert could make that kind of mistake, just imagine the mistakes that will be made by the copycats. Look forward to many casualties from “patriotic” terrorists.
I haven’t seen anything to suggest that he was a bomb expert. Familiar with IEDs, but that doesn’t mean expert.
OK, expert maybe was the wrong word, but it was part of his job. And that the mistake he made was obvious to anyone with basic understanding of heat and how things like gasoline burns. It’s a simple concept that could have easily have been solved by simply opening the top and using the fireworks to trigger things or lots of other ways to do what he said was going to happen.
The egregores, Wyrms no longer content to lurch below, animate wielded flesh to strike with venom and abandon.
Did you just activate a sleeper agent somewhere on Lemmy?
Longing. Rusted. Seventeen. Daybreak. Furnace. Nine. Benign. Homecoming. One. Freight car.
Kinda says a lot about the US military that a supposedly well trained soldier - green berets are supposed to be fairly elite right? - couldn’t figure out how to build a bomb beyond just stuffing a car with whatever random flammables they could find
He said in the letter it was not a terrorist attack and he didn’t want to harm people. It wasn’t meant to be a bomb. Green berets train insurgencies. So he know how to build a car bomb.
So he actually designed it perfectly: to look fancy but not do anything.
That’s his claim. I believe it to be true has he had training to do otherwise. If you’ve never heard of Robin sage. It’s fascinating. It’s their final exercise. Two got killed maybe twenty years ago as they attacked cops as they thought they were part of the excerxise.
Says a lot you can’t see he didn’t want to make a huge explosion.
Mission accomplished then. Still not sure what that ever was. Still not sure how this is supposed to “wake” anyone up.
This dude was a fucking moron either way.
Still not sure how this is supposed to “wake” anyone up.
Well, for one there are several dozen people discussing it here on this thread in a backwater social media site.
I know you’re trying really hard to be obtuse enough to maintain your contrarian nature with everyone you cross paths with.
I hope you do better in 2025.
Well, for one there are several dozen people discussing it here on this thread in a backwater social media site.
Discussing WHAT? That some crazy dude killed himself in a truck? Wow so woke!
Congress makes budget, administration says the VA needs about 12 billion more to cover their costs, the Republican Congress members vote against it.
I’m not saying a therapist would have helped prevent this, but I’m saying it very well may have helped prevent it.
It wouldn’t have helped this guy. His ex girlfriend talked how he wouldn’t go to a therapist since it would end his career. That needs to change. After what these people see, they need to be able to talk about it workout risk of losing their jobs.
That’s fucked up. They sign up for a job where PTSD is basically a given, and then they’re not allowed to go to therapy?
Ridiculously, it’s seen as a sign of weakness, including by those who might be in the position to give you a promotion.
The whole military culture around mental health needs to be completely reformed, but I have no idea how that would be done.
The other replies were about going at all, but that’s not the key here
She said he’d lose clearance if he went, that means the things he’d say were psychotic and he knew it
His wife allegedly shared a trump tweet and said she read them to get the desire to kill people, that kind of statement to a therapist will get your clearances revoked fast
So the guy was a massive shitstain, knew it, and then offed himself pathetically. AKA your standard trump supporter
Yeah, his full suicide letter came out, and it looks like he was still fully on board with Trump and Elon. Doesn’t make sense why he’d blow up a cybertruck in front of a Trump building, but yeah. Lots of railing against the 1% while supporting a whole bunch of billionaires.
If he was trying to keep his clearance, then he would strive to avoid any appearance of mental health issues. Strictly speaking you’re still encouraged to take care of your mental health, but you have no confidentiality in your mental health records if you have a clearance and certain psychological issues can be a cause to deny or revoke a clearance. Many clearance-holders opt to avoid therapy and other mental health treatments as a result.
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Too bad Vance is his replacement, horrible outcomes guaranteed.
If I were prone to conspiracy thinking I’d wonder if 25th’ing Trump wasn’t the plan the whole time. We have unelected VP Musk and Co-VP Thiel sitting at the helm of our nation.
They probably just expected him to croak in his own. Safe to say, they’re never gonna ask him to change his eating habits and they’ll probably respond slowly to a heart attack if it happens behind closed doors.
Been my running theory. He’s unhealthy enough that they can hope, he probably isn’t the type to look at the nutrition info on his McDonald’s.
If that doesn’t work, he’ll be an easy 25th case soon enough.
Theil and musk have a plan.
A guy like Thiel leaves nothing to chance.
Yeah, but Vance has nothing going for him. When he becomes president, Republicans will deteriorate into pretty infighting once again and people will be sick of it
I’m envisioning Trump being attached to electrodes that turn his body to mush and then an orange-tinted puddle.
It’s a nice thought :)
That’s very optimistic of you.
I feel like they’re trying to ‘handle’ it differently so that they don’t get a repeat of Luigi or more ‘woke’? ‘Anti-woke?’ People don’t copycat.
