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    Remember? The value of an item is what you get paid for, not what you want to get from it.

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    Sledder also shares that over his lifetime, he has driven and sold over 40 exotic cars, and the Cybertruck is the one vehicle he is having the most trouble finding buyers for.

    Not sure why he’s mentioning exotic cars and Cybertrucks in the same sentence. Anyways, he was a sucker the moment he paid the extra $20k or whatever for the Foundation Series. He was never getting that back.

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    idiot wants brand new value for his used vehicle. i hate these things, but this doesnt match reality on non-tesla vehicles let a lone one thats now nazi-based.

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      from the tardygrade’s perspective is it playing a large violin or a normal-sized cello?

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          Nah, that’s a cello, a viola just looks like a violin and plays like one, the difference in size is so small you probably won’t notice unless they’re sitting next to each other… The cello is played like in the picture and has a body that’s noticably thicker than a violin or viola even if they were all scaled to the same size

          Edit: you know what, on looking closer, I’m not 100% sure that is actually cello thick, but it’s been a long time since I’ve seen them in person on a regular basis

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            https://hub.yamaha.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Violin-and-Viola-Sizing-for-Blog.jpg

            Thinks cello’s are too big for the one that microscopic buttworm has, which is why I thought of viola, which sits right between viola and violin. Didn’t know they weren’t played like cellos. Have never really paid attention to Viola’s much.

            I’ve only heard what they sound like and I feel like they’re the redheaded step child of the string instruments. Who exactly likes this sound? Bass gives a deep sound for F clef and more somber tones, Celo provides a rich highly dynamic tone that can deliver low tones but also beautiful melodies, and the violin is the violin. With the viola, you’re what exactly do you do here? The motherfucking recorder of the violin family.

            Are your hands too big for the violin and you simply hate the beauty of the cello? Do you like shitty tones? Are you perma-drunk? Rhythm instrument in Bass not for you? Well, I’ve got just the inbred idiot for you.

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          you can play a violin like that, but it would need to rest on your knee, and I’m just not seeing it

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        Size-wise, relative to him, it’s much closer to a violin than a cello, maybe slightly larger. So a viola would be the best fit. I think the picture is of a cello though, just sized strangely.

        Edit: that image is strange. It’s really popular, but bad. He’s playing the strings from the wrong side of the bridge. How do you get that wrong?

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          It’s impressive enough that a creature without thumbs is able to hold the bow in the first place, and you want to criticise him for how he’s holding his cellolin?

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          Because of the size difference between humans and tardigrades, it’s hard for tardigrades to attend music lessons and otherwise learn about human musical instruments, so give him a chance, he’s probably trying his best.

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    That one is not as bad looking as the rest but it still screams 3rd grade art project

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    There is a Tesla dealership near my house that has a lot full of them. A ridiculous number. It seems that Tesla is struggling to get rid of them. Hard to believe that there is not a huge market for electric dumpsters sold by a conspicuous asshole.

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      I thought Tesla’s business model was to not have dealerships? Don’t you order Tesla’s online? Or are these second hand?

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        I don’t know. I assume it is either a dealership or a lot for the storage of inventory. They have multiple other Tesla models as well. It hasn’t been there long and isn’t labeled in Google maps. The photos in street view are years out of date and show buildings that were torn down.

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        I don’t, but know I’ve definitely seen Tesla dealerships. They have full Tesla branding so I always assumed they were related to the company and not third party.

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        Dealerships for other brands in the US are independent privately owned enterprises not owned by the major auto makers.

        Tesla doesn’t have dealerships in this sense. They do have corporate owned locations in some states where they are allowed to sell directly to consumers however that is only some states as laws prohibit automakers from selling directly in many.

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    you can buy a brand-new Cybertruck straight from the manufacturer cheaper than Sledder is asking to sell his used truck.

    Wow I wonder why there’s no takers

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      The paint job is totally worth the extra 19k you guyse!!!

      The article says there’s a madman offering 50k cash for it. Poor soul.

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        Actually 50k sounds a lot closer to reasonable for a somewhat used car that currently sells new for 80k’ish. Of course, I’m saying that in the hypothetical generic car vacuum, not the actual “electric dumpster” reality.

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    ngl the front bit of a black cyber truck looks kind of dope. But all of the rest of it still looks like hot garbage.

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      The hood/windshield slope kinda reminds me of circa 2005 Lamborghini Gallardo, and that was a cool looking vehicle.

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      I really liked the Cyber Truck design.

      Modern cars are so similar now they’re all massive and bubbly, even the Porsche SUVs looks like something from KIA.

      It may be ugly but I’m happy to see something different on the road.

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        They are similar as far as I understand because they all want the same outcomes of the design : better aerodynamics and effective crumple zones to faculiate higher survival of the occupants in a crash (some vehicles additionally try to limit injuries with pedestrians too but less so in US vehicles).

        I do agree that we have lost some of the majesty of older variations of designs but largely I think it’d convergent evolution. To leave that behind you’d want to have a really good reason which I don’t think the cyber truck really has. Different for the sake of being different rather than innovative.

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          The Aptera has better aerodynamics. Mainstream car design is hampered by common assembly line production and focus group designing. There’s also a desire for car manufacturers to keep customers within a certain brand, even if an large conglomerate owns many brands, they don’t want to risk a customer switching to a different brand(and possibly different conglomerate) as their needs change. This leads to what’s called “Badge Engineering”. The old Chevy Tahoe and H2 Hummer are basic the same car. All those “Jeeps” that don’t really look like Jeeps past the grill and could have just been a Dodge SUV.

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            Yes fair points. I assumed it was a balance between aerodynamics and crumple zones/legal requirements which is why they don’t all look like the aptera (or Schlörwagens).

            I’m quite sure the system isn’t optimising for what we want/need out of vehicles though and we could almost certainly do better.

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      But reverse. It starts falling apart when you get to the windshield lol

      I think it looks the worst when looked from the side.

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    One major issue for Sledder here is that since Tesla started Cybertruck deliveries, the starting price for his vehicle has significantly fallen…That further lowers the starting price to $70,500.

    My man found out the hard way about depreciation. All my life people have said never to buy a new car because it loses 20% of its value the moment you drive it off the lot. If you really want to drive new cars the best way to do it is lease and change every couple of years (this is still not financially sound, just better than buying new).

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        cars are kind of a scam

        The sadder scam is that most advertisements about car are like this https://youtu.be/KIvC5wsoW2Y (literally the 1st video I found) namely :

        • you are alone on the road (even in a city center here!)
        • you are driving in gorgeous scenery (here city without any ads or trash, country side, parks, above empty bridges, etc)
        • you are smiling while driving

        Whereas the reality is, for the vast majority of people (I’d wager 99%), you will drive bumper to bumper for hours to go from home to work then work to home in polluted cities, going through rings roads, stopping are red lights, etc.

        Cars are a scam in so many ways but IMHO the worst one is the promise of pleasure while driving.

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          I get pleasure on my commute. I’m on the edge of a metro area and so is my job. I can sit in traffic for 30 minutes driving straight there or I can drive a little further out and around and drive country roads for 30 minutes. It’s more distance but I love that drive.

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          Reminds me that someone posted a 1950s “the future of travel” video, and it was all retro futuristic cars doing 200 mph on almost totally empty highways.

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      That is a very good method for a business owner needs a tax write off. People who are employees leasing are fucking idiots.

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      What’s the best used electric car?

      I’m afraid that logic doesn’t translate because batteries don’t last 300,000 miles like the engine on a good ICE Toyota.

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        Batteries do last 300,000 miles. They might give only around 80-85% of their original range, but they are still very usable vehicles. Again this also depends on the reliability of the manufacturer and on the how the user has maintained the vehicle.

        Just like how a shitty hyundai engines from back in the day would not last 300,000 miles, poorly managed batteries (like in the older generation nissan leafs) will also not last that long.

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          I just went into an electric motorcycle shop here in my country, and I was told the battery would need to be replaced every 3 years.

          Most electric vehicles that ive found will not last 300,000 miles. Worse, I can’t figure out which will last and which won’t last.

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            Motorcycles batteries won’t last as long as car batteries. The main reason being motorcycles (at least in the west) are designed to be high performance, fun to ride machines. Smaller batteries (because motorcycles don’t have much space) combined with higher discharge rates (because they are being driven fast for fun) means more cycles on the battery.

            For comparison, I drive a moped/e-scooter that is has been tuned for slow, local rides. That thing comes with a 7 year, 80000 km warranty on the battery so the manufacturer thinks the battery will last at least that long before hitting 70% SoH.

            Most electric vehicles that ive found will not last 300,000 miles. Worse, I can’t figure out which will last and which won’t last.

            Modern 4 wheeled EVs (mainly cars) should last that long. Bikes/motorcycles will not and frankly, I have never seen a motorcycle or moped (ICE or EV) last for nearly 500,000 km on the original powertrain.

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    From the article:

    The Cybertruck owner listed his truck for sale for $89,000. He thinks this is a fair price […] if you added every optional extra that Tesla currently offers for the Cybertruck, given the $7,500 tax credit and the $2000 referral discount, (a brand new 2025) Cybertruck will still only cost around $86,000.

    Nobody with a brain would pay more for a used vehicle. It’s not a collectible. “Founder’s edition” nowadays means “beta version” and it’s not something that’s worth more.