• HalfSalesman@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    I am a leftist. I hate the DNC. I hate apolitical dimwits. And I hate virtue voters and protest voters. I canvassed for democrats in a delusional bid to maintain my sanity this election and I will never do that again. I don’t care if the democrats ever “win again” now. It doesn’t matter you imbecile, we’re doomed.

    I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over. Are you not paying attention?

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      I hate virtue voters

      I don’t care if the democrats ever “win again” now.

      So, what you’re saying is that they got there ahead of you. I guess we do become what we hate.

      I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over.

      Not while the Earth still spins and my heart is still beating. It’s not over, it just got hard.

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        You fundamentally misunderstand why I used to care and now don’t. I don’t believe in virtue ethics, I don’t even believe in free will.

        Before it mattered if they won because it’d (maybe) prevent doom. Now I don’t see a way out. Its consequences that matter and we’re now signed up for the worst consequences regardless.

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          Gosh, that might be kinda the way some people felt when they thought they voted in the good guys and ended up getting a genocide. Some people see Palestinians as human beings who should count in that equation.

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            Human beings are dying everyday in horribly unjust ways, not just Palestinians, and Palestinians are going to be worse off under Trump. If you disagree with the latter point you are delusional and we don’t need to talk anymore.

            I wanted to minimize death and suffering. Harris objectively would have caused less than Trump. That’s it.

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              Human beings are dying everyday in horribly unjust ways

              No kidding, and you said you gave up on all of them. As soon as it gets a little tough in your neck of the woods you rolled over.

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      I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over. Are you not paying attention?

      This is why I wanted people to be able to see beyond the possibility (or probability) of electing Trump. It seems to me the entire left side of the country (and even some of the apolitical people) bet the entire house on Trump not winning again, and when he won again they have absolutely no answer for it.

      It’s also what I found so frustrating about the “Genocide Joe” gang, because they were pretending the entire time that it wouldn’t be such a big deal if Trump got elected…that we would somehow be able to magically have a revolution or something and be able to handle a full-on fascist slide…that there would be a response from outside of the electoral and political system that would allow them to accomplish their purported goals if people just didn’t vote.

      Well, we’re here. He’s elected. He’s in power. What the fuck is this supposed response and when is it starting?

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        6 hours ago

        I will never not criticize a politician for supporting a genocide. I’ll vote for the lesser of two evils, but I won’t condone evil with my silence.

        Has it even occurred to you that maybe trying to shut people up isn’t the best strategy? “Your voice is irrelevant and unwanted, but make sure you vote!”

        If you can grasp that then you will have started to understand why neoliberalism always succumbs to fascism eventually. Mainstream Democratic thinking is pathetic.

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          The election is over. He’s in power. Why are you relitigating this for the hundredth time instead of answering the question at the end of my post that was my central point?

          Is it because there is no actual plan, there is no imminent revolution, there will be no actual response, and you lot were full of shit the whole time?