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- technology@beehaw.org
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025’’.
SEC. 3. PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
(a) PROHIBITION ON IMPORTATION.—On and after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the importation into the United States of artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence technology or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.
Currently, China has the best open source models in text, video and music generation.
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Bad chinaman used the free market to hurt american oligarchs so they got their regime whores in congress to restrict MY access to the good shit?!
Pathetic…
And frankly, it is the internet and model is open source. Get fucked daddy Sam.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2069436850145993
50 States, 50 Protests, 1day
Feb 5 @ your downtown.
They are afraid. Very afraid. Good.
So you can’t download them, you should run them directly on tencent cloud or something? Smart…
I don’t even like ai but this just makes me want to download Deepseek as much as I can
Yes, that will show them for sure
Had to lookup the penalties since this document just pointed somewhere else:
(a) In General.–Section 206 of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1705) is amended to read as follows:
SEC. 206. PENALTIES.
- (a) Unlawful Acts.–It shall be unlawful for a person to violate, attempt to violate, conspire to violate, or cause a violation of any license, order, regulation, or prohibition issued under this title.
- (b) Civil Penalty.–A civil penalty may be imposed on any person
who commits an unlawful act described in subsection (a) in an amount not
to exceed the greater of–
- (1) $250,000; or
- (2) an amount that is twice the amount of the transaction that is the basis of the violation with respect to which the penalty is imposed.
- © Criminal Penalty.–A person who willfully commits, willfully attempts to commit, or willfully conspires to commit, or aids or abets in the commission of, an unlawful act described in subsection (a) shall, upon conviction, be fined not more than $1,000,000, or if a natural person, may be imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both.‘’.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-110publ96/html/PLAW-110publ96.htm
China : Discovers Anti-gravity
USA : Law preventing study of anti-gravityI’m not even in to this shit and I’m going to download it right now because fuck those assholes.
Can someone explain briefly what I need to download that might not be available if this comes to pass? Like I did some searching and I saw stuff about Ollama but it wasn’t completely clear if that would be affected by this.
https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-r1
Very simple with ollama
So if I download this and somehow there is no longer a way to access the model online this will still work? I’m just a bit confused because I read a couple things that made it seem like even though the model is running locally it still needs a connection for some reason, if that isn’t true I’m sorry for the dumb question.
On first run it downloads the model, then you just run it locally
Thank you, that answers my question exactly.
So if I get a new computer in a few months it will no loner work. Maybe we can VPN into Sweden?
Jeeez, just copy the ollama’s directory (something like .ollama) from user’s dir to wherever. You can check and find the files inside. I find the published 14b really useful, it’s ten GB that think and reason in english.
I assume you know you can transfer files from one pc to a other?
Technically this isn’t the case. These are Deepseek distilled with Qwen and Llama depending on the weight, so they are no longer Deepseek.
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world this is the official, extremely large, one. https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1
holy shit, you weren’t kidding when you said it was large.
Well yes, it does specifically say so in the link. There’s also one with the full model in what I linked
Oh nice, when Ollama first had this up I don’t think the 671b model was there. I stand corrected on that!
Something about https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 , or at least that’s the model that everyone’s been talking about recently. It looks like it’d be half a terabyte to clone the entire repo though, and I don’t know how to use it either …
Run it using ollama in a terminal (like ollama run model_name), ask it a question.
Doesn’t matter. People in the US already have the model, so sharing it within the US wouldn’t be illegal, and the law would only apply to anything “imported” 180 days after the law is passed (if it’s passed at all).
Also, how “importing” is defined will matter for any future legal arguments, and I would imagine this law would eventually be struck down for being overbroad.
Yeah, we should only be allowed to download their social media apps?
Time to start seeding DeepSeek R1 I guess.
That doesn’t sound like a free market to me.
The paste does not go back in the tube…
It can if you kind of squeeze the tube a little bit and then let it suck the paste back in. But it’s really tedious.
BuT tHe FrEe mArKeT
One word: pathetic.
8 words: hilary clinton ai voice talking about ball sucking
Alright, now I’m hooked
The benefit of being an early adopter is my folder full of Donald Trump/Congressional Republicans suckin’ and fuckin’ before all of the fun models got taken down from easy access.
ngl them not wanting me to download it makes me want to download it more than anything else, and I’m usually against ai
Torrenting is going to be wild in 2025.
At least until they decide to Make it illegal for ISPs to allow you to torrent.
And yes I hear all the people saying can’t, won’t, laws, to which I say those things are all tenuous at best at the moment.
Doesn’t a VPN already circumvent this? ISPs already send out copyright violation emails if you torrent the wrong thing, but not if you do it through a VPN.
From a Sony legal perspective, yes.
When Big Brother decides to force ISPs to tamp it down, they’ll do stuff like set limits on unidentifiable traffic, set caps just above reasonable streaming levels.
When there’s no freedom of speech, no right to be innocent, you can tell who’s torrenting, especially if you don’t have to be 100% right to kick them off your network.
How about forming end to end encrypted wireless ad hoc networks?
Meshes are powerful. They’re great at the community level, but scale is an issue.
With the low price of very large thumb drives these days, sneakernet would work.
It would be interesting to see something DHT like IPFS overhauled to work on intermittent mesh networks.
Maybe something in between IPFS and SoulSeek. You keep a list of what you want, when someone comes on line with it you get it, or perhaps we all set aside a couple hundred gigs to fulfill requests.
