Summary

Denmark’s Defense Intelligence Service warns that Russia could launch a large-scale war in Europe within five years if NATO appears weak or divided, especially if the U.S. does not intervene.

The report outlines a timeline where Russia could attack a neighboring country within six months, escalate to a regional Baltic conflict in two years, and potentially engage NATO-wide by 2029.

The assessment comes as Trump pressures NATO members to increase defense spending and has suggested the U.S. might not defend allies who fail to meet financial commitments.

  • Majorllama@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    What are they gonna start a major war with? Their one “functional” 5th Gen “stealth” fighter that has the radar cross section of a Boeing 747 and no replacement parts?

    They gonna start shitting out t-34s again like it’s WW2?

    They have lost the majority of their best vehicles and their trained soldiers.

    If nukes didn’t exist they would already have been obliterated by now.

    • DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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      yup. and they still managed to win. It doesnt matter how many russians die, the mafia is still in charge, its detractors in the country have all been killed or imprisoned, and europe is too afraid to fight them other than mutually assured nuclear annihilation.

      they cant fight for shit, but they are very lucky that americans are so fucking stupid.

  • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Nazi Russia pact 2: America throws Europe to the wolves after creating its own role it now uses as an excuse to blackmail world peace and climate for lithium and hate because Mars Hateopia is no longer feasible in time for Elon-aloo.

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    10 days ago

    Either France or the UK can easily fill in. Both have nuclear submarines. Mutually assured destruction baby.

    • Zron@lemmy.world
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      France and the UK’s nuclear arsenal is minuscule compared to the US stockpile.

      And a lot of the nukes at NATO bases are on loan from the US, so if the US pulls out there will not be nearly as many bombs close to Russia.

      Anyone insane enough to start a nuclear war may decide that absorbing a hundred or so nukes isn’t so bad when they have hundreds of Cold War era bunkers and thousands of their own nukes.

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        Anyone insane enough to start a nuclear war may decide that absorbing a hundred or so nukes isn’t so bad when they have hundreds of Cold War era bunkers and thousands of their own nukes.

        Russian bureaucrats may think that about the rest of the population, but fortunately even they are not dumb enough to believe in having safety in those bunkers (time passes, things rot, materials decay).

        So Russia really using nukes is for a situation where somebody making decisions believes there will be no retaliation.

        Considering that throwing your friends and allies to the wolves has become a really common thing in modern world, just like plainly disregarding any kind of agreements or international laws or moral principles, I think such a situation is possible.

        And with the cucked way France’s foreign policy seems to work recently, and with the too realpolitik-style UK foreign policy, one might imagine a situation where both are not very active.

        Also bureaucrats of various countries are class brothers. A bureaucrat, even a German or a French one, understands Putin and Xi better than somebody democratically elected. And Germany is traditionally (last 30 years I mean) friendly with Russia.

        No conclusion.

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        10 days ago

        France and the UK’s nuclear arsenal is minuscule compared to the US stockpile.

        You only need a few.

        And a lot of the nukes at NATO bases are on loan from the US, so if the US pulls out there will not be nearly as many bombs close to Russia.

        Both UK and France have nuclear armed subs, those are all that matter.

        Anyone insane enough to start a nuclear war may decide that absorbing a hundred or so nukes isn’t so bad when they have hundreds of Cold War era bunkers and thousands of their own nukes.

        I’m going to go out on a limb and say even Putin doesn’t want to spend the rest of his life in a bunker.

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          I’m going to go out on a limb and say even Putin doesn’t want to spend the rest of his life in a bunker.

          You say that, but that’s literally the plan for all the tech bros and billionaires when climate change finally starts to slap. They have all the money and power to stop it from happening, but they’d rather just live out their last thirty years in a fucking hole.

      • mel@jlai.lu
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        The French strategy with nuclear bombs is not to wipe a country out of a map, but wiping out Moscow and Saint Petersburg (or New York and Washington DC for a USan example). The message is that you can kill us, but we will make sure that you are definitely crippled

  • DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Major war already started 3 years ago. Europe sat on its hands, and America is looking for the door.

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    10 days ago

    Boy, it sure would be bad if the US population had voted a Russian stooge into the presidency for the next four years. Oh wait…

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    I think Russia is well aware that if they go to war with the EU, China will backdoor them hard.

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    With what troops and hardware? This is ridiculous. I mean if Putin has a few working nukes, sure he could launch them. But he doesn’t have anything else left. It’s all been destroyed.

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      Russia has started up a war economy, scaling up production of weapons, tanks, etc.

      Putin probably waits untill Trump destroys NATO and is just taking his time to prepare.

      The only reason Ukraine has been holding on for this long is because all the stuff they got from the US and EU. If that stops it’s not going to last long.

      Pete Hegseth already completely fucked Ukraine by saying they need to give up on joining NATO and just accept that Russia can keep all the occupied areas. It’s like the Trump administration just wants to kiss Putin’s ass.

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        the weaker NATO gets, the more likely we see nuclear war.

        if the USA was to say, abandon the alliance, or not honor Article 5. the British and French may just immediatley Nuke Russia if they move into eastern europe.

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        Putin has already completed his demographic suicide. There are no men left to fight, or have children. They can build as many tanks and guns as they want, but there won’t be anyone to operate them.

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          I want to believe putin would find it difficult to maintain a war time economy without a war going on.

        • LittleRatInALittleHat@lemmy.world
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          He still has half the voters in the US sucking his dick.

          Republicans could be made to contort their minds to accept anything, even that Russia is our new ally and we’re sending them aid to fight communism or something.

          They’ll cheer

        • DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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          agree. but there’s still plenty of capability of “erasing the decadent homosexual west”

          going out with a blaze of glory is all russia has left. They spent themselves in Ukraine, and any move further into Europe, with NATO panicking over America being basically regulatory captured by Russia and Fascist sycophants, will likely result in an immediate nuclear response.

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          Yeah this is wishful thinking. This is the kind of thinking that has involved people failing in Russia for the last few hundred years. You don’t Outlast Russia in a game of numbers. That don’t work. Russia will happily go Toe to Toe with you and lose four times as many men. Not a problem for them. Never has been never will be.

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        Russia can’t produce tanks. They can only refit soviet era stocks and build a few ifvs. There are almost no soviet era stocks left. They are using ~~late ww2 era tractors ~~ civillian cars chinese golf carts dirt bikes e scooters mules for gods sake. They are producing vast amounts of drones though and are one of two countries in the world experienced in drone warfare.

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    11 days ago

    This is a ridiculous headline. They could start a war today, also could have started a war any time in the past 5 years.

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      You’re half right: it’s ridiculous because they did start a major war in Europe in the past 5 years.

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        hey fascist, you know you are the baddies right?

        are you aware and enjoy the death and destruction your country brings into the world, or do you kid yourself you are the good guys?