House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration’s authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.

  • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    90
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    10 days ago

    Democrats are officially a dead party.

    “Disgraceful and humiliating surrender from these Democrats as they continue to hit your inboxes and messages begging (spamming) for money.”

    That’s all the careers care about.

  • Allonzee@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    137
    ·
    edit-2
    10 days ago

    The US needs a left-wing Party.

    This has been half a century of Fascists vs neoliberals, center-right “free to be LGBTQ as you die of poverty in the gutter” vs so far right we’re building Concentration camps.

    Unfortunately our people have been poorly educated by design as well as brainwashed into believing profit comes before humanity. " Herp derp Anything less is socialism and therefore evil!"

    This is only “freedom” for the rich to trample the poor. Freedom without social responsibility is a rampage. We need revolution, revolution that does far more to Wall Street than merely occupy it , or we need to accept living in hell until the capitalists destroy the climate enough to destroy civilization all together.

    Don’t worry, just a few more decades of the same at most for nature to do what we’re failing to. This will end within a human lifespan, the choice is if it will be with or without a habitable planet for Humans.

    This isnt the usual ebbs and flows of history, There is a very literal deadline of humanity’s own greedy making.

    • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      10 days ago

      Don’t worry, just a few more decades of the same at most for nature to do what we’re failing to. This will end within a human lifespan, the choice is if it will be with or without a habitable planet for Humans.

      That’s the plan. That’s why billionaires are buying up properties in places that are currently too cold and remote for masses of people to want to live there (Montana, Greenland, etc).

      They know climate change is real and it is 100% reflected in Homeowners insurance rates in FL and other high risk places. I’m fairly certain that it’s not the leftist types that get into starting insurance companies.

      Also, the whole Covid thing… I am pretty sure there was a concerted effort that would cull our numbers a bit.

      So yea, we’re all going to die probably — unless you’re rich enough to afford to move to somewhere that will have a more hospitable climate when we cross the 3 degrees Celsius threshold next year.

  • deadtom@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    39
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    10 days ago

    “There are a lot of good billionaires out there that have been with Democrats, who share our values, and we will take their money. But we’re not taking money from those bad billionaires.” - New DNC head

    It’s a good thing we can all agree on what the definition of good and bad is, and how its applied in our society right?

        • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          10 days ago

          But then they’re not a billionaire anymore.

          They might even have been a multi billionaire with multiple heirs so now you’ve just more billionaires!

          Nah.

          Seize their means and make them work a minimum wage job.

          • krashmo@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            10 days ago

            The time for civilized resolution to this problem has come and gone. Billionaires decided they want to live in a “might makes right” world. Fine by me. We’ll just have to show them what that looks like when the teams are split 120,000 to 1.

      • elfin8er@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        9 days ago

        It’s an oxymoron like Jumbo Shrimp. If you were “good”, you wouldn’t BE a billionaire.

  • BillWigly@kbin.earth
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    5 days ago

    bro dems just can’t stop bending over and gaping themselves for the conservatives, as if anyone wants them to do that lmao ANYTHING to avoid left wing populism. instead of dominating politics for decades with left wing populism let’s just gape ourselves publicly instead

      • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 days ago

        There was an onion headline recently that read ‘the democrats will oppose the republicans the moment it is politically convenient to do so’. That was an actual onion headline…

  • Laereht@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    89
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    10 days ago

    So the Republicans can act like an opposition party but they can’t? Have they had their heads buried since the beginning of Obama’s term? Or is this their snide way of confirming complicity?

    • aesthelete@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      10 days ago

      The democrats were this ineffective during the GWB era as well. Then after America gets sick of Republicans because their policy is terrible and predictably causes calamities of varying magnitudes, only the people who didn’t go along for the ride with the Republicans thrive politically afterwards.

      For instance, one of Obama’s main draws in the 2008 primaries was the dude wasn’t drawn into being pro-Iraq invasion.

      The feeble wimps will all be seen as such if this era ever ends, and the public will turn to whomever consistently opposed the petard throwing before it hoists the one who threw it.

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      9 days ago

      This should be the eye opener to the left that the DNC is right wing. They let the republicans do whatever they want because they want the same thing. They only pretend not to so they can scam for donations.

  • tiredofsametab@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 days ago

    Things really need to start now on establishing a party and running candidates from local on up to combat things in the next major elections. If the democrats refuse to properly do their jobs, then elect those who will.

      • krashmo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        10 days ago

        Sign me up comrade. Let’s make some campaign slogans. How are these:

        “Free doctor visits for me or free morgue visits for thee”

        “Ammo is cheaper than healthcare”

        “They said ‘the pen is mightier than the sword’ before the masses had AR-15s”

        “AI can keep the jobs but we will be paid in cash or blood”

        Or the classic with a twist:

        “Death to fascists and billionaires”

        They could use some refining but I think the sentiment shines through at least.

        • AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          10 days ago

          Some of these ain’t bad!

          “The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of your boss.”

          “Arm the poor.”

          “I work, therefore I am.”

          “Bring Your Gun to Work Day”

          “Do you know where your CEO lives?”

            • AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              edit-2
              10 days ago

              I think it’s of utmost importance to co-opt guns and 2A enthusiasm. We don’t say “You can keep your guns”, we say “You can use your guns! Shoot that way!”

              We also need to co-opt anti-liberal rhetoric. It’s important to maintain shared contempt toward common enemies: Basically, men in suits

              “Oh, you don’t like unions? Neither does your boss.”

              “Middle managers are human shields to protect your CEO from looking you in the eye.”

              Moreover, co-opt family values rhetoric: “Defend your family from parasitic health insurers.”

              “Defend your family from wage theft.”

              “Defend your family from your landlord.”

              “Protect your children from health insurance.”

              “Protect your children from predatory bank loans.”

              “Protect your children from your boss.”

              “Protect your children from for-profit education”

              We also have to co-opt their hatred of racist accusations

              “You’re not racist! Your CEO is.”

              • krashmo@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                10 days ago

                You basically just described my politics lol. I’ve been saying forever that the left needs to adopt guns as part of their platform. It’s not exactly prophetic at this point to say that authoritarianism almost always comes from the right. The 2A is arguably more important for the left to take seriously. You gotta be able to defend yourself from fascism and anything else they try to pull.

                • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  9 days ago

                  It kinda broke the usual “THEY WANT TO TAKE OUR GUNS” crap when the Democratic candidates on the ticket are both gun owners (and Walz and avid hunter)

    • kreskin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      9 days ago

      They did rally themselves last month to push hard for tougher laws going against illegal video streaming websites. Netflix or someone in the entertainment industry cut them a check, I imagine.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        8 days ago

        “We could push for laws to make Nazi shit more illegal… Stop Musk… Maybe try to catch Trump… Nah, piracy is the most pressing issue right now! The camps need more workers for Trump!”

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      9 days ago

      Holding the only buckets that could hold water and go “I’ve done all I could, I’m gonna keep pushing for more buckets!” while the buckets that can be used are filled with gasoline by Republicans.

  • specterspectre@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    8 days ago

    Let me fix your headline “Sitting incumbents too comfortable to do their jobs annoyed that they are being pushed to do their jobs.”

  • don@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    10 days ago

    Fuck me, weak-ass, lame-ass dems essentially fucking work for the fascists. Remove the slack-jawed shitweeds and replace with actual fighters, ffs

  • evenglow@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    260
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 days ago

    “Forcing recorded votes is possible. Frequent quorum calls are possible. A wide variety of dilatory motions are possible. In short, harassing the majority is possible. If they think it’s a bad idea, say so. If they say it’s not possible, they’re lying.”

    I like how politicians voting is considered a time out. It’s their job, jfc.

  • LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    10 days ago

    Any of the ones who are upset about Progressives pushing them to act like an opposition party needs to be primaried and kicked out, if they can’t be convinced. We need more primary challengers to actually change the party, like the republicans have and continue to do.

      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 days ago

        They can do that for the president because of how that’s set up in the constitution. The states control how congress is elected, though.

      • LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 days ago

        Last year they didn’t really have presidential primaries because of an Incumbent, something both parties do all the time. But there were still Congressional primaries. And local primaries. Saying they’ll get rid of primaries when there was a reason to not have a presidential one, even if you disagree with that reason, is very much misunderstanding how primaries work.

        • AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 days ago

          I mean, they threw it out and nominated whoever they wanted. There WAS a primary-- Harris wasn’t in it. RFK was making Super Bowl ads for it

          With all the anger over the Gaza situation, they waited until the last possible moment and foisted her on us so that there’d be no time force debate

          • LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            10 days ago

            Yes and that was shit and they should have figured out a way to do some kind of primary. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be a real primary in 2028 or that there won’t be congressional primaries in 2026, which the congressional ones was what I was talking about. The only thing that would guarantee not having primaries is an official Dictatorship being created and the dissolution of congress and Trump being declared King or saying there will be no more elections.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              ·
              10 days ago

              Yes and that was shit and they should have figured out a way to do some kind of primary

              They will do it again. One of the few things democrats actually do is make excuses.

  • onecarmel@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    89
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    10 days ago

    Yeah I have completely lost faith in the Democratic Party. Seems like they don’t mind Trump because he benefits their wallet.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 days ago

      Democrats biggest donors are wealthy Republicans.

      Hakeem Jeffries is one of the biggest sellouts. Him climbing the DNC ladder is a sign that Democrats will do yet another 2016 in 2028.

      • Doorbook@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 days ago

        AIPAC as well if trump supporting Israel publicly they will never replace. And if both party turn out to be “end of life” lunatic who want kingdom of Israel then they will never change or push against a President who is pushing for the same goal even though he clearly doesn’t believe in anything.

        • fikran@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 days ago

          That’s why its important to introduce Israel as a political liability for the Democrats.

          Demonstrate that they lose elections because of their support for Israel.

      • Krauerking@lemy.lol
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        8 days ago

        Jeffries is the main backer for Eric Adams who just got a pardon from Trump under the request that he aids in the mass deportations and likely he will.

        Oh Democrats. Only annoyed they ever had to pretend to care about people.