You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

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    that actually they would be no worse off if America was bombing them and taking over.

    What are you even talking about? I never said anything like that.

    how you have to go back half a century

    It’s an example that’s relevant to the region and China.

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      What are you even talking about? I never said anything like that.

      Yes, you did. You’re whole point has been that actually bombing and invading people is no different than not doing that; it’s all “colonialism.”

      It’s an example that’s relevant to the region and China.

      Yeah, and you had to go back half a century to find one, and it still wasn’t close to what the US did to Vietnam. It also wasn’t colonialism, for that matter.

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          You’re right, my apologies.

          I stand by the rest of what I said though, you’re still trying to make a pretty major false equivalence

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            Pleas explain how conquest of Tibet and settlement with Chinese, invasion of Vietnam, and the treatment of Uyghurs is not imperialism.

            HIstorically, China is the oldest empire that’s still around on the planet.

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              Pleas explain how conquest of Tibet and settlement with Chinese, invasion of Vietnam, and the treatment of Uyghurs is not imperialism.

              Because the definition of colonialism is not “something I disagree with that an enemy of America did”. Are you going to try to argue that the invasion of the confederacy was colonialism? Are you going to argue that D-Day was colonialism? Are you going to argue that the treatment of Japanese American’s in WW2 was colonialist? How about you do it? Why is you being a colonialism apologist not colonialism? Why is me stubbing my toe not colonialism? Why is any adversary to West doing anything ever not colonialism?

              HIstorically, China is the oldest empire that’s still around on the planet.

              Lol. “China was an empire five thousand years ago, so anything it does now is colonialism.” Oh well I guess anything Egypt does is colonialism, anything Turkey does is colonialism, anything Peru does is colonialism.

              You’re literally incoherent now.

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                Otherwise, I haven’t even used the word colonialism, but imperialism. China was called Chinese Empire until 1912. They were weak at the time because of technological, societal, administrative and scientific deficiencies. The Republic of China and the People’s Republic of China laid claim to the same imperial possessions. It’s a continuation of the same imperial civilization under a different name.

                I mentioned specific things, not everything.

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                There’s also no historical baggage with Chinese colonialism in Africa.

                Let me spell it out, so you can understand it. Africans are suspicious of Europeans, because of the history with colonialism. They aren’t suspicious of China, because there’s no history of Chinese colonialism in Africa.