Summary

A new Leger poll reveals that 27% of Canadians now consider the U.S. an “enemy” country, while 30% still see it as an ally.

The survey follows escalating tensions, including President Trump’s tariff threats and his suggestion that Canada should become a U.S. state.

Trump remains widely unpopular in Canada, with 74% viewing him unfavorably. Political affiliation influences perceptions, with Conservatives more likely to see the U.S. as an ally.

Liberals, NDP, and Bloc Québécois supporters view the U.S. more negatively.

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    2 days ago

    As long as the entire government apparatus proves entirely useless in the face of Puckered Asshole Lips, we absolutely are an enemy of any country with the slightest hint of decency.

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    Can’t say I disagree with them. Usually it’s the canucks always saying sorry but this one is on us. Sorry.

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        A mixture of emotions. In my case,

        1.) I live in Illinois and bought a home in 2020 when the interest rate was 3.2% as a first-time homeowner. If I were to sell and look for a new home, the interest rate in Canada would be somewhere around 4%, plus the cost of living is higher compared to where I live. That’s ignoring the complications that could come from obtaining a permanent work visa as a foreign citizen.

        2.) I love my job as it is now and it may be difficult to find a job in the same field. Also, my wife recently found a job in her career field and for the first time wants to stay at her employer for the foreseeable future; working in public health and helping the people this horrible healthcare system is failing to care for.

        3.) Family and friendship ties to the area.

        4.) There’s some semblance of hope if we stay. I do still want the best for everyone that I share this earth with. Even if it were financially viable for me to leave, there’s millions that aren’t so lucky. If I pack up and leave that’s one less person voting for progressive policy and advocating for empathy in a country that has real projective power in the world.

        5.) Illinois, as a blue state, is temporarily insulated from damaging policy that Trump is trying to enact. JB Pritzker has remained steadfast in his opposition to Trump and regressive political action.

        I liken it to French opposition during the period of Nazi occupation. (Clearly it’s not a 1:1 comparison.) The french resistance hampered Nazi wartime efforts just enough to keep Nazi logistics from being able to cross the channel and occupy Great Britain. If that were to happen, the United States wouldn’t be able to set up any sort of staging area on the other side of the Atlantic ocean. Amphibious assaults would have taken place on the western coast of GB where there’s cliff faces rather than the sandy beaches at Normandy. Maybe Germany is then able to allocate more troops to the eastern front in that scenario, who knows. But thankfully that’s just a hypothetical and isn’t something we have to ponder.

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      What are you going to do about it?

      Edited to add

      Second time I’ve asked this and second time I’ve been downvoted to hell. Seems Americans don’t like their apathy challenged. It’s easy to be a keyboard warrior but no one seems to like facing the reality that they may have to actually do something about it.

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        You’re probably being down voted because of the presumption that we’re not doing things. Protests, calling representatives, boycotts, mutual aid networks, etc. Some of us work directly in politics or directly in government, and do what we can in those spaces, too.

        It’s kind of irritating to get a finger-wagging admonition when you’re exploring all options short of outright assassination. And if the suggestion is to just start shooting, well, I think it’s asking more than you think for someone to choose to become a killer.

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          The question contains no presumption. I want to hear what Americans are going to do about the rise of fascism in their country directly from Americans’ mouths (or this case, finger tips).

          If you’re actively protesting, calling reps, or working from within as you say, I say good job and good start.

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            If that’s true, instead of asking a rather blunt and extremely-easy-to-misinterpret question of individual people, go post a question about it somewhere. The presentation you’ve chosen (I saw the other one in the wild as well) comes across as rude and combative, even if that’s not the intention. It’s a quite bad way to foster open and honest conversation.

            Since this Trump thing started rolling a whole month ago, people have been quite openly hostile toward Americans. And like fine, we get it, but many of us -are- doing things, and always have been trying to make things better… and we are getting caught by the same exhausting “you should have done more!!! You deserve it, this is what you voted for!!! Reeeeee!!!” That’s being slung at people who actually do deserve it. It’s really tiring, on top of everything else, to have to defend ourselves and our actions to random insensitive internet people with zero cause. We 75 million active blue voters can only do so much at a time to fix a country of 350 million incredibly diverse people (and we’ve been working at it for years if not decades, this loss was devastating for many of us). Most of whom are either stupid or selfish. Most of whom have never actually seen voting red or blue to have a marked impact on anything, because until quite recently it truly hasn’t made much material difference for your average person.

            Before you ask, I’m working on getting my house ready to sell so I can buy some land to build up, solo and with as much manual effort as needed, into an off-grid year-round passive-productive farm (big ask in hardiness zone 4! But I’m 💪 capable!), that forms the foundation of a robust mutual aid network to help everyone I can… tho the fruits (and veggies) of my labor are far too sweet for the vipers that are fascists, so they get nothing but shot. They made this mess and I will do absolutely nothing to protect them from the consequences. Fortunately, they can’t help but tell you who they are. Every aid package or delivery will contain pro-social messaging, about banding together to get through the hard times, about supporting everyone based on need not ability, etc. I’ll also be building additional housing on this land (again, entirely solo, other than electrical), so I can provide soft landing for friends and family, or hire a person to help me in exchange for food and board for their family.

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        What do you want people to say to you on the Internet that is owned and monitored by the same people doing this?

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        I don’t know about them, but I’ve been attending protests and getting more locally involved. I live in a very blue state so haranguing my local reps won’t do much since they’re already on the same page.

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          Good start, keep it up. Don’t dismiss contacting your reps just because you’re in a blue state.

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        The reason you’re getting downvoted is it’s a problem even here in the country. It’s the “Why aren’t you doing anything about it?” to all of us.

        In the case of me, I live 1000 miles away from the seat of power, our representatives actively are dismantling things we voted for, not national I’m talking, state level, because we’re outright surrounded by the people who are actively cheering for this. (and the example of the voting against, state voted to get rid of the most strict abortion law in the country, legalizing it… and now the representatives on state level are trying to get a pregnancy registry “to try to stop preventable abortions.” while the state rep at national level is trying to get a national abortion ban going. This is one of many many many things in the state by itself. Hell, I just learned the state just gained police control to the other city after they managed to vote that out.)

        I didn’t downvote, but I want you to read “What are you going to do about it?” out loud. Hell, you yourself said it’s the apathy. But the fuck am I going to do? Show up and wave a sign at the people who already have shown they couldn’t give a flying shit about our opinions? Or be there when the fight starts and be a martyr. The second option the best case scenario is getting to be like Tank Man, but honestly demographics I’d be one of the many forgotten in the Tiananmen Square Massacre. And that’s what it’s going to look like, because this administration you better believe is looking for an opportunity to go full martial law, and if we don’t do it, their brownshirts will for them.

        So the best I can fucking do is stock up, prepare, keep my head down, keep in contact with the people who are in the same boat as I am being in effectively enemy territory and use the privilege I have of looking like a standard white conservative to see how many I can keep safe when being that demographic is important.

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        I downvoted you after your edit, because you’re a little bit of a dick about it.

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        There’s a good chance that wherever you live, far-right candidates are making headway in your government. What are you doing about it?

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          The federal government where I live is not actively imploding, so right off the bat I would like to point out that it’s a false equivalence. However, there is definitely a ton of headway to make in my more local area.

          I am staying aware of my local politics, vote every chance I get, contracting my government representatives. I campaign for the people I think can help my area and country the best, and I encourage everyone I know to vote.

          If my government starts slipping into fascism, I will do more. I will say also that with the USA burning every alliance it has in the span of a month, I’ve never more strongly considered joining the armed forces in some capacity.

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            If it’s already started slipping into fascism, you could be too late.

            You have to stop fascism before it ever starts.

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            If my government starts slipping into fascism, I will do more.

            Very easy to say. Hopefully you’ll never have to put your money where your mouth is.

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                Godspeed! The US has a whole lotta pain coming up, and it will have a big effect on the world order. We’ve had it coming for a long time, though.

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        Those who are really going to do things about stuff shouldn’t yap about it on social media. Loose lips sink ships.

        Right now I’m in a holding pattern. There’s a non-zero chance that Trump will be distracted by something shiny and we’ll move on to the next fucking fever dream crisis. There’s also a really, really good chance that if he does order to invade Canada, real shit will start to pop off here.

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      I’m guessing it’s a split between considering the govt an enemy but not the people, along with people who think it’s nearing-but-not-quite an enemy.

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      US citizen here… can I bump up that number for them please? I’ll work and pay taxes without complaining about them.

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      It’s a problem with polls, they don’t give enough options and many times and the few options they give mean different to different people. If the US were an enemy I’d be too busy trying to figure out how to blow shit up in the US to have this conversation. That’s what I consider the word enemy to mean. We’re not there yet.

      I’d classify the US as an adversary though. A country I’m opposing by non-violent means.

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    And rightfully so. We currently have a dictator that is threatening to absorb them into the collective shithole that America has become…

    I cannot blame them one bit and I’m surprised the percentage is that low.

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    Yeah the current US government is an enemy to everyone right now, a cancer that needs to be excised.

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    We are Americans.
    We are Americans, oh yeah!
    We carry great big guns
    'Cause we are Americans!
    Oh yeah!

    We’re strong (we’re strong!)
    And we’re free (we’re free!)
    We are Coke, We are Pepsi
    'Cause we are Americans
    We are Americans.

    What we’d like to do for you right now,
    is a short history of the United States of America.
    First of all a short scene depicting the United States
    of America, and their diplomacy.

    Hey pal, do whatever I tell ya!
    No!
    I got a really big gun here…
    All right then.

    Yeah! Secondly a short scene depicting the United States
    of America, and their economy, yeah!
    Hey pal, gimme all your money.
    No!
    I got a really big gun here…
    All right!

    And thirdly a short scene depicting the United States
    of America, and I’m sure we all understand their foreign policy, yeah!
    Hey pal, let’s go fight a war in Iraq.
    Okay! Where’s Iraq?
    Yeah!

    And finally a short scene depicting the United States of America, and the settlement,
    the settlement of that great nation, we know and love as the USA, yeah.
    Hey you Indian. Here’s a bunch of glass beads, gimme all your land.
    No.
    I got a great big gun here.
    Nice beads!

    We are Americans
    We are Americans, ah yeah!
    We carry great big guns, yeah!
    'Cause we are Americans

    We’re strong (we’re strong!)
    And we’re free (we’re free!)
    We are Coke, We are Pepsi

    And we wear
    Canadian flags
    When we travel On our bags

    'Cause we are Americans (ah yeah!)
    We are Americans (c’mon everybody, make like you’re at Woodstock, yeah!)
    We are Americans
    We are Americans
    We are Americans, Here we go!
    We are Americans
    Everything I do… I do it for you.

    Americans, Corky and the Juice Pigs [who were a Canadian musical comedy group]

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    I think it’s telling that enemy and ally are closely matched…

    Canadians likely have some nuance here… They don’t hate “us” the people, they hate “us” the country.