• Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf
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    3 days ago

    Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.

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      3 days ago

      We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.

      With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.

      We need an Europan open source stack.

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            6 hours ago

            That’s worse. If someone was telling me about “google or microsoft stacks” without explaining what it is, I would laugh.

            Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, …? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.

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                6 hours ago

                You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a “tech stack” which practically means nothing.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Google’s stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch

                  And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams

                  That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning

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                    6 hours ago

                    what else would i be talking about

                    I’m a programmer. I was expecting languages, OS, open-source, APIs, file formats. What we have been calling “stacks” for the past 30 years but which has been hijacked by web devs.

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      3 days ago

      EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal

      Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:L_202302675

      Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:

      ANNEX I

      Union response measures pursuant to Article 8

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      1. The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.

      This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.

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        3 days ago

        This sounds really interesting, do you have a link or anything I could look for in a quick search to learn more?

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          3 days ago

          Search for Anti-Coercion Instrument, the one that came into effect in December 2023

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      2 days ago

      If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his clowns clan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.

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          2 days ago

          You’re entitled to that opinion, and feel free to suggest a change of law, but for now … it’s still the law. And obeying only the laws that suits your goals is very much Trump/MAGA style. Let’s not get down to their level.