YA THINK?!?!
The odds Trump isn’t a Russian operative are far far far less than the odds that he is a Russian operative.
Doesn’t anyone remember the veiled threat Putin publicly gave Trump when he took office again? It was something along the lines of Putin re-emphasizing who was truly in charge… as if he had some kind of blackmail on Trump.
I’ve just noticed….what the fuck even is his signature? It begins and ends with an A…Auld BussyynnA
Like the Tories weren’t a hop skip and a jump away from him before Reform split their vote.
I mean, the only question at this point is really whether he was one before he ran the first time or if that happened later.
Possibility? Whether or not the fucking KGB really recruited Krasnov, the mofo is definitely a Russian asset.
Yeah, when the Krasnov thing first got published, I said something to the effect of, “I would skeptical of explosive, unverified claims like this because they may be disinformation, and either way there’s more than enough evidence that Putin has control of Trump.” Then someone accused me of being a Russian asset because everyone has brain poisoning now.
Earlier this morning a coworker mentioned politicians wearing their corporate sponsors like NASCAR drivers. This was my response:
This is so stupid. He is an asset, whether intentionally or not. Russian media is having a heyday with him. Whether he is an “agent” or not remains ambiguous, but he is absolutely an “asset” to them.
A distinction without a difference?
Assets don’t have to have be in on it intentionally. A tank is an asset. A forest at the border can be an asset. But to be an agent takes volition and consensual involvement.
Oh I agree. I’m just saying that whether there is intent there or not doesn’t really make much if any difference to the outcome.
So he’s both
If he’s getting played by Russia and he doesn’t know it, he is an asset but not an agent. We all know how retarded Trump is, I think it’s possible that he’s not a literal agent.
Asset may be a bit strong. Theres every chance he’s simply in their pay for some issues/events and there’s nothing to stop him ignoring them when it suits him. I’d imagine he’s rinsing them for money and believing that he’s getting the best of the situation. America and the American people only pawns in trump’s latest scams.
If he’s not a Russian asset, he’s working for them pro bono.
What, does the UK want to go to war with the combined might of the USA and the USSR?!
“possibility”… as if there is any doubt
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One day old account with one comment on its entire profile so…
If they’re saying this out loud, then they have been considering it for a while.
If they’re saying it out loud they’re certain and they consider it expedient to make it common knowledge.
I doubt it will have an effect. He’s already won
America, not the world
The Steele Dossier said as much and that was what, 5 or 6 years ago?
Trump is well known to have been a Russian asset going as far back as 1987:
—————— There are a lot of other key things not mentioned anywhere since this story keeps getting buried. Ivana’s father was a known informer for Czech intelligence (see: basically a subsidiary of the KGB).
Even moreso when you look at a brief timeline of events:
• 1977: Trump marries Ivana; KGB file allegedly opened on Trump. • Autum 1986: Trump meets Yuri Dubinin; referred to KGB state travel agency. Source: The Art of the Deal • July 4, 1987: Trump visits Moscow and meets with Soviet leader Gorbachev. Trip paid for and organized by KGB travel agency. Stays in hotel physically connected to KGB travel agency (i.e., every part of that hotel was likely bugged). Alleged time of recruitment by KGB. Source. • July 1987: Trump registers as a Republican • September 1987: Trump’s first indication of interest in the Presidency via 3 full-page ads in the NY Times, Washington Post, and Boston Globe with language such as “America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves.” • December 1987: Trump and Gorbachev meet at a State Dinner at the White House • 1988: Gorbachev planned to meet Trump at Trump Tower. • February 1989: FBI Counterintelligence opens investigation into Trump and Ivana. This goes on for at least 2 years.
Everything above, besides the “allegedly” part, is fact with direct evidence. One final, more conspiracy theory-oriented thing: Ivana died from falling down stairs the day before the Trumps were to give depositions. They said she had “declining health” in the weeks prior, except she had gone out to a restaurant the day prior. The restaurant owner stated she appeared of normal health like anyone else. There’s a ton more stuff I’ve been putting together, but that’s the easy stuff that anyone can verify in 5 minutes or less. It’d be quite nice if there was some actual investigative journalist to put this together rather than just some random guy on Reddit (see: myself). Edit: Added sources, Gorbachev’s 1988 visit to Trump Tower, and Dec. 1987 meeting.
Source was on reddit, by kaptainkeel, he posted references to all the bullet points.
Not really much to consider. Seems pretty obvious at the point.
Even if there was none of the evidence (“Krasnov” codenames claim, etc) the fact that at every turn he does exactly what Putin and the Russian oligarchs want and is actively harming the US and other western countries means everyone needs to treat him like he’s a Russian asset. It almost doesn’t even matter if he officially is or not…
Yeah, the Krasnov stuff is somewhat funny in a dark way, but he definitely serves Russian good over US good, whether he’s an official asset or not. If his actions are treasonous, does it matter whether he’s been recruited?
Yup. He is an asset to Russia whether or not he is a willing asset.
The only question is whether he knows he’s a Russian asset. Trump may be working for them without realizing it. All Putin would have to do is convince him he was just giving him advice, one wise ruler to another, because Trump is special and brilliant, and provide a few incentives. Trump would believe that taking the advice was all his own brilliant idea.
Well he is ‘a very stable genius’.
Does it matter for treason if he himself is aware?
I think as we’ve seen multiple times treason doesn’t count for Trumpler period.
I agree. Not saying it did. Currently he seems to not have any legal issues in that regard or is seen as such.
History will tell though.
I 100% agree, but what makes me scratch my noggin’ is the fact that people in London finance have (jokingly?) nicknamed the City of London as “Londongrad” because there’s so much Russian money. Makes it feel like the entire 1% is a Russian asset, which can’t be right.
From ‘America First’ to ‘Russia First’? Stuart’s theory raises uncomfortable questions.
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