NEW YORK - President Donald Trump’s tariffs have spooked investors, with fears of an economic downturn driving a stock market sell-off that has wiped out US$4 trillion (S$5.3 trillion) from the S&P 500’s peak last month, when Wall Street was cheering much of Mr Trump’s agenda.

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    1 - Gloating

    2 - Hubris

    3 - Denial <-------We’re somewhere about here, depending on the individual’s MAGA level

    4 - Doubt

    5 - Leopards ate my face

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    The guy who bankrupted a casino is tanking the biggest economy in the world. Who knew!

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    It’s important to remember that the rich in the US will profit off this as the working class gets fucked, it’s not “haha trump dumb,” it’s a planned thing to increase the wealth of the super rich

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      it’s a planned thing to increase the wealth of the super rich

      The prior generation of neoliberal economics was doing this just fine. Trump is being buoyed, in large part, by a generation of middle managers, professionals, and small business owners who have eaten shit through a generation of consolidation and de-skilling of advanced labor.

      But his policies still suck. His neglect of critical infrastructure and his race to defund public goods and services and his clumsy implementation of pseudo-scientific economic policies won’t benefit anyone in the US, rich or poor. The rich will endure the catastrophes better (probably). And they’ll have the resources to flee when shit really starts to hit the fan (for the most part). But the idea that the biggest shareholders of Boeing, Microsoft, Exxon, and JP Morgan Chase are somehow positioned to come out ahead on a massive contraction in real economic production is delusional.

      American kleptocrats have made the choice to rule in hell, rather than to pay a 36% marginal tax rate in heaven. And you only have to look as far as Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, and Israel to see where this miserable policy ultimately leads. Sergey Brin and Eric Prince are going to trade places with Ahmed bin Abdulaziz and Yevgeny Prigozhin, entirely for the opportunity to avoid dealing with the IRS.

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      So far the most ultra rich have been seeing their wealth evaporatie as most of their wealth is ties to their ranking companies, so for the moment I’m applauding it

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    They say there is no crystal ball in investment, but it’s hard to not have predicted this outcome.

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    Good thing I sold off my entire 401k last month 30 years early in anticipation of the market taking a massive dump

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      Good job. For what it’s worth you should still take your employer match and invest it all outside North America. Don’t leave that free money on the table because the US is headed for a depression.

      I sold the stocks we had for a down payment on a house late last month too. I have avoided $9000 in losses SO FAR. I was talking about this a couple days ago and was essentially told I’m an idiot for trying to time the market instead of riding the dip. Then yesterday early morning before open I was told I got lucky and better buy back in to lock in my winnings. $5000 of those losses would have occurred yesterday if I’d bought back in. I’m not putting money back in the casino until it’s under new management.

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        I feel like it’s about time to shift money into gold securities or something tangible as our reputation based currency systems take a beating.

        • I thought about precious metal securities. I wonder if you can buy rare earth securities yet? I’m honestly thinking about getting the physical stuff and hiding it. Insane. I wouldn’t have believed I’d be thinking like this half a year ago.

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            It’s all about what level of collapse are you trying to shield yourself from. Like if you’re talking worldwide mad max, no electronic claims to wealth will be honored, only physical substances, like actual gold, water, guns.

            But if it’s just a economic recession or depression and we aren’t seriously talking about countries going away… Yeah I’m thinking gold securities, lithium probably. The guy in The Big Short started started buying up water next, for what that’s worth.

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        Trump is bankrupting ANOTHER CASINO?!?

        Art of the Deal, go!

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        Glad you got it out! And glad you didn’t buy the dip before it dipped even harder. Definitely don’t think now is the time to be playing the stock market game unless you have extra money laying around to gamble with.

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          This means that you have cash now? If so, isn’t it dangerous if hyperinflation comes into play? I am just curious, not trying to blame you for anything

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            Whether it’s a crashing stock market or inflation both are going to cause your money to become worthless and both can be fixed with time but with crashing stock market if companies don’t rebound in the end and go out of business during the depression then your money is lost forever. At least with inflation there’s a chance it’ll resolve and you’ll have money again in the end.

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        Me, a liberal in 2025: “Those stupid conservatives will never learn. They keep supporting the same tired crop of losers and idiots, while the situation in this country just gets worse by the day.”

        Also me, a liberal in 2028: “I’m extremely excited to vote for Hillary Clinton because she’s the most qualified person for the job and she will definitely fix everything.”

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          I feel like someone will be screaming at me in three years because I’ll be unhappy that Liz Cheney is the Democratic nominee. It’ll be the lesser of two evils, maybe.

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    Hello easyspeezy here, today we got quite a special order, we are doing a bankruptcy speedrun!