The 1989 movie created a wonderful world, but the sequel (Batman Returns) was in some ways a reboot because it changed the tone so much. If you were to cut scenes or elements of the sequel to make it feel more like the original 1989 movie, what changes would you make? I’m working on a fan edit.
My own thoughts are to remove the more fantastical and slapstick elements by cutting down on screen time of Max Schreck and the Penguin (due to the Adam West style gags). I’m thinking of delaying the intro of the Penguin until the ballroom scene between Bruce Wayne and Selena Kyle.
What would you do?
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Interesting take I never felt the tone changed until batman forever due to McDonald’s being mad about Burton’s vision for the series. Returns just doubled down on what the first one was doing and being a reflection of the villain.
I watched Forever just a few weeks ago. I never thought I would but I was curious. Man, that thing was aimed at pre-teens.
The two big changes I’d make would be to make the Christmas light girl not as dumb, and to just get rid of the bit where Alfred scratches the disc when they’re playing Penguin’s ravings at his speech.
The little scratch takes me right out of the movie every time I watch it.
I completely agree. And I’m taking care of those exact things in the edit.
I really liked Batman (1989) but, I think Adam West’s Batman is peak Batman so I wouldn’t change anything about Batman Returns
I haven’t seen Batman Returns in years, but I don’t recall the tone being that different from Batman, Michelle Pffeifer licking latex aside…
The breach happened with Batman Forever and Batman and Robin…
The latex licking was definitely odd. Batman Forever broke my heart. If I edit that one it would be about 5 minutes long 😂
The best thing to come out of Batman Forever and Batman and Robin:
I did not like any movies from the series but the first one. I sorta wish they had done an 80’s xmen with grace jones, arnold, and jack nicholson.
The first was definitely outstanding.
