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The lie that won’t die is that Republicans are better for the economy than Democrats. By every measure possible, that is just not correct. Republicans break shit, Democrats fix it, and voters reward them by ushering Republicans back in power. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Now, the stock market is not “the economy,” and even boom times have seen economic decline for a significant percentage of people in the United States, particularly in its decaying rural regions. But the market is a proxy for strong economic performance, however inequitable it might be distributed.

At that very least, there’s no scenario in which we have economic development without a strong market. If companies are to create jobs, there has to be a strong market—or investors, in anticipation—pumping money into that job growth. Just take a look at Wall Street’s 10 worst crashes:

1) March 12, 2020

Republican Donald Trump was president, and the emergence of a deadly pandemic and ensuing shutdowns signaled a period of economic uncertainty. Rather than calm jittery markets, Trump suggested that people inject bleach (April 24, 2020) to cure COVID-19. The markets had every reason to panic. Too bad they didn’t remember those lessons in 2024.

2) Nov. 20, 2008

Republican George W. Bush was president when the subprime mortgage crisis took down the global economy. Years of Wall Street deregulation—cheered on by Republicans—created the conditions for this mess.

3) April 4, 2025

Trump is president again, and here we are in a completely self-created and enabled crisis because Wall Street didn’t learn from the lessons of 2020, and their greed overrode all evidence that Trump is a disaster to not just our democracy but to global order. Congratulations, assholes. You voted for this.

4) Nov. 6, 2008

Bush done f’d stuff up.

5) October 15, 2008

Same as #2 and #4, courtesy of Bush and his merry cabal of deregulators.

6) October 7, 2008

Same same.

7) March 9, 2020

Trump again.

8-10) October 9, 10, and 22, 2008

Bush really made a mess of things, which makes it particularly maddening that people walked away thinking that Republicans knew anything about running an economy. Eight years of manufactured scandals against Democratic President Barack Obama really did a number in the United States, ushering in the age of Trump.

It’s quite obvious that, once Trump’s tariffs have fully left their mark, 2025 will occupy far more than just one spot on this list.

Other notable crashes?

Black Friday in October 1929, with Republican Herbert Hoover as president.

Post-9/11 market crash, with Bush as president.

Black Monday on October 19, 1987, with Republican President Ronald Reagan.

It’s a Republican. Every. Single. Time.

    • dota__2@lemmy.world
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      im keeping my statements mostly to the facts. there’s plenty of people that will tell you the dems are just planned opposition to republicans.

      the two parties are not held to the same standards remotely.

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      I would say Republicans don’t underestimate Murcan intelligence. They more accurately gauge just how gullible Murcans are when it comes to believing their lies about the economy, queerfolk, immigration, taxes, and services.

      Economically, every single Republican POTUS has fucked the economy for the little guy, why would you believe this one would be different?

      Queerfolk make up maybe 10% of the population, how are they possibly oppressing the other 90%?

      Immigrants do all the jobs that most Murcans won’t touch like agricultural and construction. How can it help average Murcans to have more expensive food and housing?

      For taxes and cuts to services, it’s long been proven that tax cuts for the wealthy do not create jobs or benefit society at large. The accompanying cuts to services do far more harm than good.

      Republicans mislead the population in order to get you to vote with your emotions.

      Democrats don’t seem to think that this works and refuse to stoop to their level, when it is at exactly this level they need to fight if they want to have any hope of winning an election. Call them names, make up shit that doesn’t exist, taunt them about how they’re old and tired, and literally deep throat a microphone. Whatever the current reality teevee POTUS is doing.

      You can’t beat those fuckos with facts or reason.

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      They’re better at the game because they aren’t required to operate truthfully. “A lie will spread halfway across the world before the truth has its shoes on.” A robust propaganda network combined with a willingness to lie right straight to the faces of your constituents means that reality can be whatever you want it to be, and the evening news will back you up on it. That’s all that most people need in order to believe something - authority figure says X, the news agrees, that’s now a fact.

      I don’t see an effective way to combat this especially with folks who are already immersed in the Fox News environment. They have been heavily conditioned to reject information that disagrees with their official story. How do you fight that?