there’s a difference between cynical and defeated, you know. some of you act like you’ve given up. i don’t want those people for allies. just fucking leave the country or go back to playing video games, because you’re doing exactly what they want you to do.
I wish i could, but if I do, I’ll never see my children again
What about when you’re in a situation where you have to report other anti-MAGA to protect yourself from MAGA? Would you rat out strangers you don’t know to protect yourself and your kids?
The “but my children” excuse does not make you an ally, it makes you a liability and untrustworthy. What if they decide to deport you? You’ll definitely never see your children again. What about other peoples children? Just because they’re not yours, they don’t matter to you? Children, aka the future, depends on you going out and fighting, not hiding behind your kids because “my kids are more important than your kids.” That mindset of fear and capitulation to fascists is exactly what creates fascism, so stop using your kids as a shield from responsibility. You decided to bring your kids into this situation, not us.
There are other ways to help on the frontline that don’t involve picking up a gun and getting shot. On the back end as well, people are needed. You have a unique set of skills, stop giving them to the people that bribe you with money and start using it towards your childrens future.
I have a complicated history, but long story short, my ex (American citizen) convinced me to move to the States with our children, and when we arrived she sabotaged my greencard application leaving me undocumented. I am trying to get legal status through VAWA, but It’s slow.
if I could I would take the kids and return to Europe it would be kidnapping, and if I leave without them, I’ll never see them again.
I am living in constant fear of ICE.
I ain’t even from here, but I’m stuck here now. Expecting me to fight for your freedom is like blaming a polish jew in the ghetto for not fighting against Hitler hard enough.
I will never rat out anyone else. but also, I know of no one else in my situation anyways.
I’m really sorry for you and your situation, I wish there was anything more I could do than tell you that (as not an American myself). If anything I hope your situation is a cautionary tale for anyone thinking of moving to America.
You need 218 representatives to issue articles of impeachment and 67 Senators to convict (remove from office).
That means that you need every single Dem and independent, PLUS 20 Republican Senators and 5 Republican Members of the House. I would love to see anyone suggest a list of who those 25 Republicans might be.
Also, Trump has been impeached by the House twice and it doesn’t seem to have effected his political career negatively.
I have a complicated history, but long story short, my ex (American citizen) convinced me to move to the States with our children, and when we arrived she sabotaged my greencard application leaving me undocumented. I am trying to get legal status through VAWA, but It’s slow.
if I could I would take the kids and return to Europe it would be kidnapping, and if I leave without them, I’ll never see them again.
I am living in constant fear of ICE.
I ain’t even from here, but I’m stuck here now. Expecting me to fight for your freedom is like blaming a polish jew in the ghetto for not fighting against Hitler hard enough.
lol. you don’t know how our government works. there is absolutely no way impeachment will ever be successful. R’s control the house and senate.
stop waiting on a broken government to fix itself. we are literally in self defense mode. if you really care about your children, you need to start arming yourself.
Telling people you disagree with to leave the country is the most conservative stance you can take. Just join the Republicans if you’re gonna be that far right
So what exactly are you doing to help, then? Holding signs up at your weekly protests that are authorized by the police? It’s easy to criticize people when you aren’t doing shit yourself.
Right now, anything is something. This is an unprecedented situation in 250 years of America. Things are slowly coming together, but it is new territory. Unlike the developed world, America binds work/health/insurance/vacation/home/car/life very tightly together. Even a week of missed work can result in homelessness, sickness, death. This is by design so the ruling class can limit movement. This all needs to be fixed first thing once we’re done destroying evil, but in the now, we have to work how we can, when we can, where we can.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the corpo media focus on minor aircraft crashes (not all minor, but non-fatal collisions at airports, and personal craft going down are commonplace anytime) is to make people scared to fly to DC.
Donate anything you can afford to local charities, every little bit helps. Funding is being drained all over the place and the ripple effects are only beginning. Write letters to your leadership so they know their constituents are pissed and they better do what they can.
Learn things in your skill-set that may be helpful in the coming chaos, alternate means of communication, computers, networking, radios, transportation, maps, routes, memorizing information.
Store food so you can go without grocery stores for a few months if you have to.
Be proactive on goings on, support protesting Tesla and corpo protests. Don’t buy things. Check out how people just not going to Target has been going. Silly protests like hacking road crossing buttons in Silicon Valley, law suits, letters, anything to slow down the morons that think they’re in charge. It’s boots on the ground, it’s psyops, its money, its visual, its presence, it is everything to cause noise and confusion right back at them.
Delay buying that new iPhone. Cancel Amazon Prime. Read books. Books on history. Stay informed. If you see someone harassed on the street, at the bare minimum, video broadcast it, intervene if you’re brave.
Once the billionaire class wakes up and realizes that we, not an orange blumpkin, nor a muskrat actually make them money, they’ll change their tune or miss out on all that sweet sweet revenue. (Who knows, maybe even grow a conscience, but let us not be delusional.) With or without them, however, we can’t give up on hope.
Even those with the means to leave are doing their part by taking talent away from the US which will cripple the Machine of Evil long-term. They can help from the outside by helping those on the inside stay informed to the real news.
No one thing is going to change this, it has to be all things at the same time.
So stop being a fatalist, what shit are you doing? If you are a member of planet Earth, you should be doing something.
Nothing was ever accomplished with peaceful protest, especially not protest that’s sanctioned and scheduled by the authorities.
But I wouldn’t expect a liberal to acknowledge that. Leftists get in the streets, liberals stay in the tweets. You question Trumps methods, but not his power, because once he’s gone, whatever corporate-owned millionaire you appoint will need that power when it comes time to put the boot on the necks of anti-genocide or civil rights protesters.
It’s been said in some studies that most of the successful resistances to authoritarian regimes rely on peaceful, not violent resistance. That has surprised me too, but it does help to snowball a much larger movement. It makes people less resistant to participating, and also much harder for the news to demonize. Many people that I’ve spoken to say they hate what’s happening, but are afraid to speak out - and they often change their mind when they see others taking stands too.
We understand events like April 5 do not cause immediate change, but it’s highly likely they’ve had slower effects. Harvard choosing to resist the administration, or the Supreme Court ruling in favor of Garcia, might not have happened if they hadn’t seen how much of the nation opposes that administration.
It’s obvious that those studies did not take place in the United States, because it’s historical fact that none of the rights Americans have were ever achieved through peaceful protest.
Im actually a libertarian who supports escalating the movement. I also believe politicians need to be reminded to fear the people. But strawman me away. I think we may have more in common than you think.
there’s a difference between cynical and defeated, you know. some of you act like you’ve given up. i don’t want those people for allies. just fucking leave the country or go back to playing video games, because you’re doing exactly what they want you to do.
Yeah and obeying in advance, its pathetic
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I wish i could, but if I do, I’ll never see my children again
and I’m pissed the dems are not starting impeachment proceedings and removing that orange cancer immediately.
What about when you’re in a situation where you have to report other anti-MAGA to protect yourself from MAGA? Would you rat out strangers you don’t know to protect yourself and your kids?
The “but my children” excuse does not make you an ally, it makes you a liability and untrustworthy. What if they decide to deport you? You’ll definitely never see your children again. What about other peoples children? Just because they’re not yours, they don’t matter to you? Children, aka the future, depends on you going out and fighting, not hiding behind your kids because “my kids are more important than your kids.” That mindset of fear and capitulation to fascists is exactly what creates fascism, so stop using your kids as a shield from responsibility. You decided to bring your kids into this situation, not us.
There are other ways to help on the frontline that don’t involve picking up a gun and getting shot. On the back end as well, people are needed. You have a unique set of skills, stop giving them to the people that bribe you with money and start using it towards your childrens future.
I meant “i wish I could leave”
I have a complicated history, but long story short, my ex (American citizen) convinced me to move to the States with our children, and when we arrived she sabotaged my greencard application leaving me undocumented. I am trying to get legal status through VAWA, but It’s slow.
if I could I would take the kids and return to Europe it would be kidnapping, and if I leave without them, I’ll never see them again.
I am living in constant fear of ICE.
I ain’t even from here, but I’m stuck here now. Expecting me to fight for your freedom is like blaming a polish jew in the ghetto for not fighting against Hitler hard enough.
I will never rat out anyone else. but also, I know of no one else in my situation anyways.
I’m really sorry for you and your situation, I wish there was anything more I could do than tell you that (as not an American myself). If anything I hope your situation is a cautionary tale for anyone thinking of moving to America.
You need 218 representatives to issue articles of impeachment and 67 Senators to convict (remove from office).
That means that you need every single Dem and independent, PLUS 20 Republican Senators and 5 Republican Members of the House. I would love to see anyone suggest a list of who those 25 Republicans might be.
Also, Trump has been impeached by the House twice and it doesn’t seem to have effected his political career negatively.
I’m just upset that they aren’t even trying. it’s like the only official tool there is too fight this.
we’re all upset, but that doesn’t do anything. it’s up to us.
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I meant “i wish I could leave”
I have a complicated history, but long story short, my ex (American citizen) convinced me to move to the States with our children, and when we arrived she sabotaged my greencard application leaving me undocumented. I am trying to get legal status through VAWA, but It’s slow.
if I could I would take the kids and return to Europe it would be kidnapping, and if I leave without them, I’ll never see them again.
I am living in constant fear of ICE.
I ain’t even from here, but I’m stuck here now. Expecting me to fight for your freedom is like blaming a polish jew in the ghetto for not fighting against Hitler hard enough.
The dems cant impeach him. He was already inpeached two times.
Republicans are the only ones that can because of their majority
lol. you don’t know how our government works. there is absolutely no way impeachment will ever be successful. R’s control the house and senate.
stop waiting on a broken government to fix itself. we are literally in self defense mode. if you really care about your children, you need to start arming yourself.
I’m not waiting for it to fix itself.
I’m upset that they aren’t even trying.
we’re all upset. let’s focus on solutions rather than just complaining.
Telling people you disagree with to leave the country is the most conservative stance you can take. Just join the Republicans if you’re gonna be that far right
you’re annoying. fuck off.
Are you going to kick me out of the country for being annoying Mr. Trump?
whatever i have to say to you at this point would be better expressed in person.
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So what exactly are you doing to help, then? Holding signs up at your weekly protests that are authorized by the police? It’s easy to criticize people when you aren’t doing shit yourself.
Right now, anything is something. This is an unprecedented situation in 250 years of America. Things are slowly coming together, but it is new territory. Unlike the developed world, America binds work/health/insurance/vacation/home/car/life very tightly together. Even a week of missed work can result in homelessness, sickness, death. This is by design so the ruling class can limit movement. This all needs to be fixed first thing once we’re done destroying evil, but in the now, we have to work how we can, when we can, where we can.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the corpo media focus on minor aircraft crashes (not all minor, but non-fatal collisions at airports, and personal craft going down are commonplace anytime) is to make people scared to fly to DC.
Donate anything you can afford to local charities, every little bit helps. Funding is being drained all over the place and the ripple effects are only beginning. Write letters to your leadership so they know their constituents are pissed and they better do what they can.
Learn things in your skill-set that may be helpful in the coming chaos, alternate means of communication, computers, networking, radios, transportation, maps, routes, memorizing information.
Store food so you can go without grocery stores for a few months if you have to.
Be proactive on goings on, support protesting Tesla and corpo protests. Don’t buy things. Check out how people just not going to Target has been going. Silly protests like hacking road crossing buttons in Silicon Valley, law suits, letters, anything to slow down the morons that think they’re in charge. It’s boots on the ground, it’s psyops, its money, its visual, its presence, it is everything to cause noise and confusion right back at them.
Delay buying that new iPhone. Cancel Amazon Prime. Read books. Books on history. Stay informed. If you see someone harassed on the street, at the bare minimum, video broadcast it, intervene if you’re brave.
Once the billionaire class wakes up and realizes that we, not an orange blumpkin, nor a muskrat actually make them money, they’ll change their tune or miss out on all that sweet sweet revenue. (Who knows, maybe even grow a conscience, but let us not be delusional.) With or without them, however, we can’t give up on hope.
Even those with the means to leave are doing their part by taking talent away from the US which will cripple the Machine of Evil long-term. They can help from the outside by helping those on the inside stay informed to the real news.
No one thing is going to change this, it has to be all things at the same time.
So stop being a fatalist, what shit are you doing? If you are a member of planet Earth, you should be doing something.
They’re telling their allies to leave the country because they don’t like the words they say. They might as well just join the conservatives.
lol. not hardly. i have real solutions. read my username, bud.
Right. So you’re not doing anything.
God you defeatists are insufferable. Peaceful protests are the START of these movements. We’re starting the ball rolling.
Nothing was ever accomplished with peaceful protest, especially not protest that’s sanctioned and scheduled by the authorities.
But I wouldn’t expect a liberal to acknowledge that. Leftists get in the streets, liberals stay in the tweets. You question Trumps methods, but not his power, because once he’s gone, whatever corporate-owned millionaire you appoint will need that power when it comes time to put the boot on the necks of anti-genocide or civil rights protesters.
You’re just diet fascism.
It’s been said in some studies that most of the successful resistances to authoritarian regimes rely on peaceful, not violent resistance. That has surprised me too, but it does help to snowball a much larger movement. It makes people less resistant to participating, and also much harder for the news to demonize. Many people that I’ve spoken to say they hate what’s happening, but are afraid to speak out - and they often change their mind when they see others taking stands too.
We understand events like April 5 do not cause immediate change, but it’s highly likely they’ve had slower effects. Harvard choosing to resist the administration, or the Supreme Court ruling in favor of Garcia, might not have happened if they hadn’t seen how much of the nation opposes that administration.
It’s obvious that those studies did not take place in the United States, because it’s historical fact that none of the rights Americans have were ever achieved through peaceful protest.
Im actually a libertarian who supports escalating the movement. I also believe politicians need to be reminded to fear the people. But strawman me away. I think we may have more in common than you think.