• Freshparsnip@lemm.ee
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    Umbridge wasn’t killed by the centaurs, she’s in book 7 and so survived the centaurs. She is last seen surrounded by dementors

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        “Well of course they’re going to do whatever we want in the forest. Because of the implication.” -Dennis “centaur” Reynolds

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          Professor Umbridge was lying in a bed opposite them, gazing up at the ceiling … Since she had returned to the castle she had not, as far as any of them knew, uttered a single word. Nobody really knew what was wrong with her, either. Her usually neat mousy hair was very untidy and there were still bits of twigs and leaves in it, but otherwise she seemed to be quite unscathed.

          ‘Madam Pomfrey says she’s just in shock,’ whispered Hermione.

          ‘Sulking, more like,’ said Ginny.

          ‘Yeah, she shows signs of life if you do this,’ said Ron, and with his tongue he made soft clip-clopping noises. Umbridge sat bolt upright, looking around wildly.

          ‘Anything wrong, Professor?’ called Madam Pomfrey, poking her head around her office door.

          ‘No … no …’ said Umbridge, sinking back into her pillows. ‘No, I must have been dreaming …’

          Hermione and Ginny muffled their laughter in the bedclothes.

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              it’s the same jk rowling that had the ghost of a 50 year old woman leer after a teenager while he was taking a bath in the prefect bathroom.

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                Don’t forget love potions - a girl basically roofies Ron trying to get Harry. Voldemort is evil because his mom drugged his (muggle!) dad, and he left once she stopped drugging him.

                Rowling is dealing with sexual trauma, as we know from her eagerness to weaponize it against trans people. But she also seems to have a morality system where anything the Good Guys do is Good, and anything the Bad Guys do is Bad. Whatever happened to Umbridge is something that was so traumatic even the sound can bring her back - and we are showing a character with signs of clear PTSD and with protagonists that think it’s funny to try to make them relive their trauma.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Not that JK rowling deserves the benefit of the doubt (definitely not), but teenagers and many children would definitely do such a cruel thing without understanding why it’s so cruel.

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                    Not that all stories need to have morals attached to them, but I think showing older teen protagonists who also struggle with PTSD (the threstrals serve almost as a direct “visual” metaphor) as treating the symptoms of someone who is experiencing some sort of severe psychological shock so callously. It’s the kind of thing Harry might think of doing, because what she tortured him with the pen, but you should have your good protagonist consider how that would make them worse than the bad guys, or maybe have Dumbledore or McGonagall give a speech. It’s not that Harry Potter has to be moralistic, but it does try at times?

                    Shouldn’t they mentally be flashing back to St Mungo’s - to see how fucked up Neville’s parents were - the way that Bellatrix jokes about it is considered fucked or I think Malfoy also does at a point.

                    Should Hermoine feel some form of subtle guilt, or, even just respect for a fallen foe? I guess the assumption is she’s not dead and magic medicine can make brains better.