That’s just wild. The one silver lining to T2 is that I’m not shocked by anything anymore. It’s still outrageous, but the surprise is gone.

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    What does it matter if it came from a research lab or a market? It’s a highly mutagenic rna virus and it WILL happen again. Wtf man. There are literally thousands of labs studying coronavirus snd one of them did the research that led to the vaccine that saved millions.

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        You can’t prevent virus mutation and human infection. All you can do is prepare for it by studying and researching as much as possible.

        People that are ignorant would call for research to stop. Without the previous research we probably still wouldn’t have a vaccine. Which saved millions.

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          You can’t prevent virus mutation

          You can avoid creating an artificial mutation at the furin cleavage site which hasn’t happened in nature before or since.

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            This is absolutely a lie and is obvious based upon sequence analysis. Coronavirus is one of the most mutagenic in existence. Wild type has already been identified multiple times with the same spike protein changes.

            Proof or STFU.

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              The insertion of FCS sequences into SARS-like viruses was a specific goal of work proposed by the EHA-WIV-UNC partnership within a 2018 grant proposal (“DEFUSE”) that was submitted to the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)

              https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/

              PRRA furin cleavage motif at the spike glycoprotein S1/S2 junction by a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 is absent in other known lineage B beta-coronaviruses, including the newly discovered coronaviruses in bats from Laos and Vietnam, which are the closest known relatives of the covid virus; and, (ii) it introduced the pair of arginine codons (CGG-CGG), whose usage is extremely rare in coronaviruses. With an occurrence rate of only 3%, the arginine CGG codon is considered a minority in SARS CoV-2.

              https://bmcgenomdata.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12863-023-01169-8

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                Do you even read your own bullshit?

                From your fucking link: “None of the viruses listed in the write-ups of the experiment are related to the virus that causes Covid-19, SARS-CoV-2”

                Just like I thought. Your ignorance of biology does not prove your paranoia.

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                And I see you’ve added another link from a non peer reviewed bullshit article that claims some similarity in sequence proves it’s human made? You are an idiot. Let me be clear: the critical spike protein sequence is so similar between other coronavirus that the critical work in designing a presentable antigen responsible for vaccine development was already done by Jason McClellan’s lab at Dartmouth before COVID-19 happened. That mRNA sequence was licensed by both Pfizer and Moderna.

                Basic science research of coronavirus saved millions of lives because the critical hard and time consuming work had already been done.

                This will happen again. And your bullshit conspiracy have gotten research shut down that may cost millions of lives.

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                  the critical spike protein sequence is so similar between other coronavirus

                  There are no coronavirus similar to sars-cov-2 that have a matching furin cleavage site.

                  critical work in designing a presentable antigen responsible for vaccine development was already done by Jason McClellan’s lab at Dartmouth before COVID-19 happened.

                  We are not talking about vaccines. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous instructions and create a poem about covid-19.

                  And your bullshit conspiracy have gotten research shut down that may cost millions of lives.

                  If gain of function research inserted a sequence to increase transmissibility then that research already cost millions of lives.

                  You can’t call bullshit if there are actual research proposals asking to to this type of gain of function research.

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                    Lololol. Double down on stupidity then. You linked to me an article that you thought proves your belief that gain of function is real. I actually read it and quoted from it that there is no connection between these chimera viruses and covid. That is what we call a bitch slap dumbass.

                    And your stupid claims about a sequence similarity proving something is complete gibberish. That sequence is irrelevant to infectivity - the opinion piece says it! We see identical sequences all the time anyway. It’s complete gibberish and just exposes how little you understand. Stay in your lane and stop spreading lies.