Following GPS to the nearest Costco led a Guatemalan woman and her two U.S. born children to the International bridge where they were detained for a week and now face deportation.

  • hakase@lemm.ee
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    10 hours ago

    There shouldn’t be a path to legality - that just incentivizes more illegal immigration, because they know they’ll get residency eventually.

    To be clear, I think what’s going on in El Salvador is abhorrent, and that at this point ICE is basically the Gestapo, but that doesn’t mean that countries shouldn’t have the right to decide who is and who isn’t allowed across their borders.

    If I illegally crossed the border into Canada because I don’t like what Trump is doing, for example, they have every right to kick me out.

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      56 minutes ago

      I’m a legal immigrant (to the USA), there absolutely should be a legal path to emigrate to any and all countries.

      The only difference between me and her is that I could afford not to work for the 7 months between landing in the country and my green card arriving in the mail, as well as the roughly $10k in fees, and I don’t have kids so being apart from my (then fiancee, now) wife for 14 months while the paperwork went through was also not such a big burden.

      Having the privilege to endure those hardships does not constitute the entirety of being a good citizen.

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        48 minutes ago

        I fully agree with a legal path to emigrate to any and all countries, but only if done ahead of time and through the proper legal channels. (And it goes without saying that once those channels have been gone through, resident status should not be revoked without serious reason to do so, followed by due process.)

        Breaking a country’s laws by entering illegally is already serious evidence against your being a good citizen; plus, regardless of how good a citizen you are, countries have a right to decide which non-citizens are or are not allowed to enter their countries in the first place, based on any and all conditions they alone deem relevant.

        If you break in to my house and then ask me for a job, even if you’d be the best worker in the world, I’m still gonna respond with, “Get the hell out of my house”, and I’d be right to do so.

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            30 minutes ago

            Regardless of the severity of the offense, sovereign nations ultimately have the right to decide who is or is not allowed into their countries.

            If someone finds you trespassing in their garden, they make you leave. If you’re drunk in Kroger, once again, they make you leave. This is perfectly in keeping with the nature of the crime - if you’re in a place where you’re not allowed to be, including nations, you have to leave.