• Kyle@lemmy.ca
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      3 days ago

      Breeders will always exist, and so will their customers, as they always have. If it’s only financially viable for breeders to be held accountable for their actions, that’s another way of keeping dogs out of shelters. I’d rather live in a world where breeders always adopt their dogs back, always ensure they find a home instead of overwhelming shelters, charities and communities work together to make owning dogs more affordable so they don’t get relinquished during financial stress, AND shelters exist. In a world where shelters are the only hope for dogs, dogs are left behind.

    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      You do know that having any dog that isn’t spayed/neutered that makes pups makes you a breeder, right?

      The only difference between a breeder and someone letting their dogs make babies is that the breeder has some idea of what the puppies will look like.

      And, since breeders can be divided into two or three “camps”, with two of those keeping records of past breeding, the pups resulting from those efforts are going to have known issues, rather than random ones.

      Like it or not, dogs are shaped by humans. The only question is how much control is applied to the process. in theory, breeding would be a well regulated process focused on the health of the dogs as the primary goal. If we could ensure that, it would be superior to adopting mixed breeds in that regard.

      I get the idea you’re working from, and I support it. But trying to pretend that random dogs reproducing is better than controlled breeding is absurd.

      • Iceman@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        And when unregulated breeders are the type of people that prefer animal abuse to constumers that prefer animal abuse.

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          2 days ago

          Ahhhh, please don’t take this wrong, but I’m not sure what you mean. The way your comment is written, there’s a few possible interpretations, so I don’t want to jump to a conclusion.

      • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        trying to pretend that random dogs reproducing is better than controlled breeding is absurd

        Yes, my opinion is not usually shared by most other people. I do not think dogs, or any other animal is an object to be used by humans. So, make of that what you will. I don’t really care what you think.

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          3 days ago

          I mean, you care enough to respond, obviously. But not enough to do anything else.

          That kinda points to you just thinking that your take on things is superior, and nobody else is worth talking to. Which is fine as far as that goes, there’s shit I feel the same way about. But, I don’t come back with “I don’t care what you think” when I don’t care what someone thinks.

          A bit contradictory. Which, again, is fine as far as that goes. Nobody is required go be consistent or honest with themselves, or even with others.

          Just, you know, it doesn’t convince anyone you don’t care what they think, if you respond at all, much less with the whole “my opinion is so rare and special” type of opening.