• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Also the collapse of the Russian state can be lessened in the same way the collapse of Yugoslavia was

    A country of 23.5 million vs 147.2 million, with GDPs of $120 billion vs $2.2 trillion. Leaving aside the nukes, these are very different things.

    Adding in the nukes, maybe they don’t blow up all their neighbors. Maybe they all just die. That’s a bad thing you fucking psychopath

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      1 year ago

      Aint a fucking psychopath just thoughly apathetic. As I stated I doubt their nukes even work let alone anything the nukes need to work. Also arent most of Russias nukes scattered about in semi-remote locations? Oh no a couple goats a bridge got vaporized.

      Anyways the economic size is irrelevent. The fact of the matter is without an oppressive authoritarian oligarchy suppressing everything its possible that the newly created countries could have economic booms. For example damn near every country released after ww1.

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              1 year ago

              Both your proposal of inaction and my proposal of action will do that. At a certain point it becomes a matter of statistics, which has the best outcome. And as loathed to admit he had a point Stalin put it best “A single death is a tragedy a million is a statistic”

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                  1 year ago

                  The Ruskies could pull out and enter them any day now. Theyve had what 2 years and they havent. Well with the exception of those jokes they made where they kept all of the Donbas.

                  The fact of the matter is the ball for peace is on the Ruskie side of the court. They could go home any day they damned well wanted to, put it down as the Russian federation version of the Vietnam war.

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                    1 year ago

                    They can’t, because Ukraine is promised NATO membership when the war is over. That’s kinda their own fault for escalating this into a war, but now that it’s on the table they can’t pull out. They kinda fucked themselves into never retreating from this stupid disaster and without some kind of peace deal that guarantees Ukraine doesn’t join NATO the war can never end. They’re fucked.

                    “Oh well they can just let NATO sit right on their border!”

                    America almost started WW3 over the Cuban missile crisis, having a hostile neighbor like that is an existential threat that can not be allowed.