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    Takes easy shots for internet points while maintaining the status quo and not trying for any actual improvements

    The Dems are legit and got it figured out now!

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        An article saying they’re taking in more private money and giving it to their state reps? Without any mention of policy or government planning?

        No actually, can’t really put my finger on why, but that really doesn’t do it for me.

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          and giving it to their state reps?

          No, to state parties…

          The state parties that neoliberals spent almost a decade bankrupty thru the victory fund.

          Like, it’s not writing checks to politicians, it’s paying staffers to work starting now instead of waiting till six months before an election.

          Turning those into full time permanent positions, and a venue for an average working class person to become involved in politics.

          I’m sorry you don’t understand how this is a big deal, so feel free to keep asking questions. It might help someone else who sees it too.

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            You’re one of their staffers, aren’t you? It’s easy to see really, talked right past me without getting a thing I said. Attitudes like that are why the Dems keep losing slam-dunk elections. All you’re saying is how well they’re building the machine, without any mention of what this machine is for and what they’re going to do with it.

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              Like, to start at the beginning we have to cover the “victory fund” that started in 2016.

              See, in 2008 Obama bucked tradition by ignoring the DNC and refusing to nominate a chair. This allowed neoliberals to maintain control, but with Obama not working with the DNC they were broke by the time he left.

              Hilary’s primary campaign started paying the DNC’s bills, and in return they got approval of everything the DNC did. They also greenlit the “victory fund” which allowed someone to bundle donations to the DNC, a candidate, and state party all at their donation limits.

              But all the money went to the DNC. Which shared with Hillary/Biden/Kamala. In 2016 I think it was 1% of the money went back to the states. In the past the states got those “overflow” donations that let Dems be more competitive in purple and red districts.

              So for about a decade that money has dried up and that’s how telubyhave majorities.

              Paying that money back to the state parties allows them to start working on voter outreach and engaging with voters, hearing their issues and explaining how Dems can fix it, if we get the votes.

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                It’s not about the fucking money dude! No one gives a shit, you’ve got it bassakwards. You’re so wrapped up in getting enough to beat the other team that you’re completely missing what your voters actually want. Love them or hate them, Obama, Bernie, and even Trump showed you guys that if you talk to people, if you speak their language, and (in Trump’s case pretend to) address their concerns, that other shit won’t matter.

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                  that if you talk to people, if you speak their language, and (in Trump’s case pretend to) address their concerns, that other shit won’t matter.

                  Right…

                  And the state parties pay for the infrastructure that allows those things to happen…

                  You think Bernie and AOC foot the bill for those huge town halls? The state parties pay for that.

                  But it makes no sense for them to go to Cali, and the red and purple states can’t afford to support it…

                  Except now they can.

                  Like, you have the right complaints about what was wrong, you just haven’t noticed it’s been addressed.