• Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and most of South America would disagree with you.

    Anyway. GovCo can’t win anyway. Not even in open hot war. They don’t have the numbers.

    Military and Natl Guard combined are less than 3,000,000 people. And that includes the logistics that makes it all work. They couldn’t handle Afghanistan and its <50,000,000 people.

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      13 hours ago

      You overestimate how willing people are to throw their bodies at the problem. Things have to be so bad that they expect to die anyway. Otherwise, your militia sign-ups will be limited to only those most brave, ideological, or stupid.

      You also underestimate how much more effective military training and ordinances are among the US military vs militias. If they really wanted to mow down civilians, it would be fish in a barrel, even if everyone in the militia is armed.

      This is why the hope is that US service men are committed to the constitution and not to Drumpf’s orders. It’s a thin hope.

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        They’re committed to the paycheck. Don’t be naive. Do you think American soldiers are uniquely unable to carry out atrocities? That sweet salty buttery baby jesus is gonna reach down, touch their hearts and make them defy orders? I’ll refer you to uh, the last 25 years of action in the middle east.

        This empire is dying live on TV. And all of them so far have ended bloody. We won’t be the exception.

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          13 hours ago

          I did say it was a thin hope (well I said ‘thing’ but I’ve corrected it now).

          But I think you give your service men too little credit. Even the police. How many fatalities or even serious injuries have actually occurred during protest activities? These a generally not people who want to kill anyone, particularly not their American brothers and sisters. But when one side dehumanizes the other, all bets are off. If things actually become life threatening, then everything changes. Kill or be killed.

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            13 hours ago

            I’m happy to be surprised. But I have set my expectations appropriately low.

            I expect some inciting event over the summer. Someone gets killed by the feds and those protests really do turn into real riots. Then the clown prince will escalate. Open war by Christmas.

            Like I said. I’m happy to be proven wrong. I would be delighted to be proven wrong. Maybe we’ll luck out and he’ll have a stroke mid ramble or maybe some general will shoot the bastard during his military parade. But I don’t think we’re that lucky.

            Another possible is a general strike. That Union leader they black bagged earlier this week. He hasn’t been released yet. If they try to deport him on some trumped up bullshit that’s gonna have an apocalyptic backlash from basically every union except the police union.