I imagine that we would be more scientifically advanced
I highly doubt this. The fascist regimes are not really welcoming for open science having scientists with freedom of thought. The science would be more like in the Soviet Union, where science education was great, but the advances were reduced to “government approved” tracks like space, weapons and maybe some medicine. Hard to see something like computational revolution stemming from a repressed regime.
Yeah… in optimising weapons and stuff that carries weapons. Imagine what could have been, if the same amount of money/time/whatever would have been invested in medicine or renewable energy.
A lot of scientific breakthroughs are made like this. Internet was made by the military. Rockets were made because we were trying to outarm each other.
While it would be best if we didn’t kill each other, the optimised outcome is getting scientific progress while killing each other. The silver lining of concentration camps is the human experimentation which gave solid evidence for solid science.
The silver lining of concentration camps is the human experimentation which gave solid evidence for solid science.
There is no such thing as a silver lining to that. What Mengele and his goons did had no scientific backing, produced nothing but tortured and maimed kids, while killing thousands more to prove some crude ideas
But they didn’t even follow the scientific method or produce decent data.
We know perhaps marginally more from them, but the poor note taking and lack of systemisation make both Mengele’s, and Japan’s Unit 731, “experiments” close to useless.
And that’s disregarding all the ethical issues that modern non-fascist people of ethics have.
The Soviets also made scientific breakthroughs within their military industrial complex. Not much of that trickled down to ordinary people, which then hindered it from being further applied.
The silver lining of concentration camps is the human experimentation which gave solid evidence for solid science.
How much of “solid science” are we talking about? My understanding is that it was not a lot, and its quality was rather poor.
I highly doubt this. The fascist regimes are not really welcoming for open science having scientists with freedom of thought. The science would be more like in the Soviet Union, where science education was great, but the advances were reduced to “government approved” tracks like space, weapons and maybe some medicine. Hard to see something like computational revolution stemming from a repressed regime.
Germany made some insane progress under Hitler
Yeah… in optimising weapons and stuff that carries weapons. Imagine what could have been, if the same amount of money/time/whatever would have been invested in medicine or renewable energy.
A lot of scientific breakthroughs are made like this. Internet was made by the military. Rockets were made because we were trying to outarm each other.
While it would be best if we didn’t kill each other, the optimised outcome is getting scientific progress while killing each other. The silver lining of concentration camps is the human experimentation which gave solid evidence for solid science.
There is no such thing as a silver lining to that. What Mengele and his goons did had no scientific backing, produced nothing but tortured and maimed kids, while killing thousands more to prove some crude ideas
They did conduct human experiments with scientific goals in mind. The ethics were questionable (to say the least).
But they didn’t even follow the scientific method or produce decent data.
We know perhaps marginally more from them, but the poor note taking and lack of systemisation make both Mengele’s, and Japan’s Unit 731, “experiments” close to useless.
And that’s disregarding all the ethical issues that modern non-fascist people of ethics have.
My 6 year old nephew also has a scientific goal in mind when he launches dirt with his shovel catapult. Doesn’t mean that he produces anything useful
No, he doesn’t.
The Soviets also made scientific breakthroughs within their military industrial complex. Not much of that trickled down to ordinary people, which then hindered it from being further applied.
How much of “solid science” are we talking about? My understanding is that it was not a lot, and its quality was rather poor.