• Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
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        The fact that any of them are still alive is only because Israel was constrained from using its nuclear weapons.

        Bibi got exactly what he wanted. He killed Israel’s top 10nuclear scientists in the first 10 minutes of the attack. There has been no huge international outcry as a result of the attack so he now knows that he can do it again without consequences. He dragged fascist boot licker Donald Trump into the conflict so now he knows that the US will run to his aid whenever he needs it.

        Trump got exactly what he wanted. He was horribly embarrassed by the fact that everyone was laughing at his dollar store dictator parade and got to flex his strongman muscles. Never mind the fact that the attack was a near total failure, his fascist bootlicking base believe that his approval rating is at 99.9% and that he completely wiped out Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

        Other than that, though, Iran definitely won.

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          I don’t understand how people can be so ignorant. It’s not just about Iran’s losses, if the other side is degraded just as much, that’s a victory for Iran. Israel’s iron dome was degraded enough that at the end they only had 65% effectiveness. This allowed Iranian missiles to strike hospitals, their cheap drones were able to penetrate. In fact, it was Iran who launched the last volley to which Israel initially said they would retaliate but then backed off. Israel isn’t even reporting casualty rates anymore because the numbers are too high. Do you really think those strikes happened because Iran was using expensive hypersonic missiles that they were never known to have had?

          Everyone knows on paper Iran’s military is older and weaker. And still they fought their way into a ceasefire in which they got to have the last volley.

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            7 hours ago

            Just as Israel was flying jets over Iran, Iran was flying missiles over Israel. The 2 militaries use different types of weapons to attack. The skies over both places were rather unfriendly.

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            I don’t know if that is what forced this particular ceasefire today. Didn’t uncle Donnie yell at Bibi to halt an attack that was already in flight? I don’t know how long Israel could continue this and how long Iran could their response. Technically Israel has the US economy producing weapons for its strikes whereas Iran, AFAIK can only count on themselves at the moment.

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              I don’t know what caused the ceasefire, I’m only saying they were able to and got the last volley in. Which made Israel vow revenge, but Israel still stopped. Who won? I don’t know. But I am saying Iran didn’t lose, which for such a weak military is a victory in and of itself.