Lawmakers in Florida are raising alarm over documents suggesting immigrant children and pregnant women could be detained at ‘Alligator Alcatraz.’
A draft operational plan obtained by the Miami Herald suggests minors could indeed be transported to the controversial site in the Everglades. The 35-page undated document details protocols to “separate minors from unrelated adults” and to provide “snacks and water” to minors, pregnant women and detainees with medical conditions during transport.
“The State of Florida is planning to send pregnant women and children to the ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ detention camp,” wrote State Senator Carlos Guillermo Smith on social media. “This is totally un-American. We cannot be silent.”
Call it what it is: Alligator Auschwitz
It’s concentration camp. Why is anyone surprised?
Honestly, how is it any better to send young men there? I’m not wild about sending pregnant women and children there obviously, but…are we indicating that men don’t matter?
It said pregnant women and children. Which are both vulnerable populations that are more at risk for death from severe heat stress and malnutrition and stress .
A lot of our culture accepts and promotes the idea that men are inherently dangerous.
It is a depressing reality that to most people men (as a social class) are less important than others.
I think it’s nice actually that we can recognize that pregnant women and children are more vulnerable groups of people that sometimes require more protection than men. I say that as a man.
Alligator Auswitz
Its a concentration camp. Don’t call it alligatoralcatraz.
Exactly. Call it Alligator Auschwitz.
Based on their laws, if the adverse setting they’ve placed a pregnant woman in causes a miscarriage, all of the employees are partially responsible for a homicide right? Since life begins at conception right?
The problem in your logic here is that immigrant children aren’t people in their eyes, so fetus or not they can’t be murdered.
Florida Lawmakers Sound Alarm Over Plans ‘To Send Pregnant Women & Children’ to
‘Alligator Alcatraz’concentration campFTFY
Alligator Auschwitz
So they’re sending children to death camps already? I thought it would take longer than this
they were already pushing children in concentration camps last trump administration.
And during the Biden administration.
God, how much I despise democrats and their BS ratchet.
But sending men there is “okay.”
You’re what whataboutism sickening and disingenuous, fuck off
*Your
I don’t know a single person on this earth that likes a grammar Nazi but do go off queen
Simp harder, knight.
Simp lol Fuck off Reddit nerd
Said who, besides you?
No, sending men there is not OK; but yes, sending pregnant people and children there is indeed even worse than sending men and women in good health there.
Glad to have cleared that up for you! As soon as you’ve worked on your reading comprehension, I recommend looking up the term “straw-man argument”.
They are pointing out the alarms only going off for women/children instead of for everyone
The alarms are not going off for women, they’re going off for pregnant women, but all these “whatabout men” comments are ignoring that non-pregnant women are also in the ignored group and just making it about men’s welfare being discredited. Gives MRA vibes.
Yeah, I almost called them a Incel in my response So yeah, same vibe
Which is not true, hence my comment.
Hence their comment
I think you’re the one who needs to work on your reading comprehension. The
airquotes around “okay” clearly indicate that they think it is NOT okay.“air quotes”? Those are actual quotation marks
Whoops! 😂
That’s a good faith interpretation, but I’ve never seen a comment like this that isn’t whining “but what about men”.
The comment is saying: “oh, so we are pointing out that sending people to places like these is bad when it’s happening to women, but not when it’s happening to men”, which is whataboutism, derailment, and a misreading of the article.
Alligator Auchwitz?
Gator Gulag?
*Trump Tower
Alligator Auschwitz indeed
Honest question, what’s flagging this as AI for you? I can generally catch them pretty easily, but I’m not seeing it here.
Yeah I can’t tell on this one either
The sepia filter and the styling of the font as well as the whole overall feel is exactly like ChatGPT does cartoons.
Honestly, thank fuck for the AI studio Ghibli trend, they overtrained the models on that stuff and caused the easily recognizable piss filter to appear. Makes finding AI slop at a glance easier.
The inconsistent sizes of the guys did it for me
noooooo, not AI 😮😮😱😱😭
the main value of the piece is the joke that is clearly the user’s idea. the art itself is annoying.
The idea of leopards eating my face is not that original. I have seen similiar comics by real artists hundreds of times. I would much rather see those with credit than something ChatGPT generated.
Edit: Also, it’s not the users idea
same,
it would be much better and relatable if it was drawn
Welll that WOULD be, if the joke wasn’t stolen.
stealing jokes? are you familiar with the term meme? as in the academic term?
Dude I’ve been doin meme shit since they were called “fads”, since Mr T had eaten my balls, but I draw the line at stealing a fun, simple, handwritten comic and making AI slop of it. I’m not a full-on AI hater at all, but fuck that noise. Post the original.
Ok so. How has no one taken a drone out to this facility and gotten a recording of the entire exterior of it?
Because based on what I’ve seen, a couple of guys with bolt cutters could do some serious damage to it.
Hell, have we learned nothing from Ukraine? Get some cheap ass FPV drones to land with strips of thermite?
Like I’m 1.5k miles from where it is, so that’s a bit of a problem for me. But how is there no one in Florida capable of this kind of thinking?
It’s like everyone completely has no idea what “sabotage” is, and that you don’t need to hurt people to defeat a regime.
All the alarms have been going off for months now. But every organization that were supposed to do something about it were disbanded, defunded or rendered powerless.
Latinos overwhelmingly voted for this 70%.
Sorry, not sorry.
the stats exist, you can check them instead of making shit up; the Latine vote was pretty close, but they still voted more for harris globally, i believe Latino men in particular voted ever so slightly more for trump
the only racial group who overwhelmingly voted trump, across men and women, and this is gonna SHOCK you!!, are whites.
whites voted for this; when are we rounding them up in concentration camps? when are we deporting them to europe?
No they didn’t. You just posted a made up a number and did it in the service of dehumanizing a minority population. And the people getting deported (at least now) didn’t vote for anyone, they aren’t citizens.
This comment is sus as hell. Exactly something a right winger would post to cause mistrust in opposition groups. And even if it isn’t, you need to learn some media literacy if you’re just parroting an obviously fake percentage like that.
Fuck off with this racist revanchism.
These are people who are ripe for radicalization against the regime, and we need everyone we can get.
As a black man here who has watched black people time and time again advocate, fight, and push for Latino rights and representation; knowing at the end of the day, many Latinos wanted to be white so badly that becoming a “pick me” with their vote was more important than unity made me come to this conclusion:
“Bye Felicia.”
First off I don’t know where you got 70% from, but from what I see a majority voted for Harris. It was close (because support for the Democratic candidate fell and because participation fell) so Trump got 48% of their vote, but that’s all it was. Close.
Second, to complicate this further, 41% didn’t vote.
Third, leaving aside the fact that your grievances aren’t based in reality; your revanchism is basically making you side with the Republicans in their ethnic cleansing campaign. Your position is making you indistinguishable from any Republican.
What we need to be doing is building a broad coalition of resistance against the regime, not trying to use the regime to settle grievances. If we don’t unite oppressed members of society against Trump he’s just going to pick us off one by one. Divide and conquer.
You may have a point.
I should be directly my ire at white women knowing the broodmares conservatives are going to make them and they still majority went for him.
From the source I posted, white women still only favored Trump by a 4-point margin. Is that enough to write them all off?
Nobody deserves this. These people were suckered by a conman who has decades of experience conning people. That doesn’t warrant a death sentence or even imprisonment.
If a successful coalition is to be formed, it has to be made up of former Trump voters. We won’t have the numbers otherwise.
This is true, but at the same time those voting for him need to be smarter than a rock come voting season. It’s hard to have empathy for those crying about how Trump has wrecked their lives after they so shamelessly/stupidly supported him.
“Empathy” is what the right completely lacks, and it’s what Democrats have begun abandoning because it’s not in vogue. However, empathy is the one thing that helps us unite across boundaries that the right tries to convince us are unsurpassable. Empathy is what makes us strong.
I get that being angry is easier than being productive, but we really need to be productive right now, and writing off large groups of people because of their perceived failings is not helping.
Most of the people being sent to these camps are going to be undocumented, so they couldn’t have voted in the election if they tried.
Well… for one, empathy tells me that whoever ends up there after having voted for this, this is ok. Sute, it is cruel, now how about empathy for those people who did not want this and will still end up there? How about empathy to people who happened to be around those idiots who wanted this and got shitload of crappy attitude and worse from them? Or does anyone think for those millions supporting these atrocities - this very support is the only ugly thing they ever did and ever will do?
You trust people with 20 IQs that want you dead? You can’t be that stupid.
The children didn’t vote
But their parents did. Pharaoh in the book of Exodus did not listen either.
Yeah, at this point I have zero sympathy for anyone who voted for them. You find yourself without health insurance, a home, being deported, having your workers deported? Welcome to the find out phase of FAaFO.
None of these people voted at all. They literally couldn’t vote against this.
“What we’re witnessing isn’t about security or solving problems,” they said in a joint statement, “It’s about inhumane political theater that endangers real people.”
Yep. It’s a theater of cruelty that would have delighted the Marquis de Sade.
