Lawmakers in Florida are raising alarm over documents suggesting immigrant children and pregnant women could be detained at ‘Alligator Alcatraz.’
A draft operational plan obtained by the Miami Herald suggests minors could indeed be transported to the controversial site in the Everglades. The 35-page undated document details protocols to “separate minors from unrelated adults” and to provide “snacks and water” to minors, pregnant women and detainees with medical conditions during transport.
“The State of Florida is planning to send pregnant women and children to the ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ detention camp,” wrote State Senator Carlos Guillermo Smith on social media. “This is totally un-American. We cannot be silent.”
So they’re sending children to death camps already? I thought it would take longer than this
they were already pushing children in concentration camps last trump administration.
And during the Biden administration.
God, how much I despise democrats and their BS ratchet.
Alligator Auchwitz?
Gator Gulag?
*Trump Tower
Alligator Auschwitz indeed
Its a concentration camp. Don’t call it alligatoralcatraz.
Exactly. Call it Alligator Auschwitz.
Honest question, what’s flagging this as AI for you? I can generally catch them pretty easily, but I’m not seeing it here.
The sepia filter and the styling of the font as well as the whole overall feel is exactly like ChatGPT does cartoons.
Honestly, thank fuck for the AI studio Ghibli trend, they overtrained the models on that stuff and caused the easily recognizable piss filter to appear. Makes finding AI slop at a glance easier.
The inconsistent sizes of the guys did it for me
Yeah I can’t tell on this one either
the main value of the piece is the joke that is clearly the user’s idea. the art itself is annoying.
The idea of leopards eating my face is not that original. I have seen similiar comics by real artists hundreds of times. I would much rather see those with credit than something ChatGPT generated.
Edit: Also, it’s not the users idea
same,
it would be much better and relatable if it was drawn
Welll that WOULD be, if the joke wasn’t stolen.
stealing jokes? are you familiar with the term meme? as in the academic term?
Dude I’ve been doin meme shit since they were called “fads”, since Mr T had eaten my balls, but I draw the line at stealing a fun, simple, handwritten comic and making AI slop of it. I’m not a full-on AI hater at all, but fuck that noise. Post the original.
noooooo, not AI 😮😮😱😱😭
Alligator Auswitz
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Dont put Ausschwitz so lightly. Thanks
You think Auschwitz started out openly with a plan to kill every detainee? German concentration camps were no different than this at the start. Mass cells for a designated group of “outsiders”. It was only later that the gas chambers were erected to cull the contained population to make room for more detainees. We are moments away from Auschwitz in America. If you can’t see that, you are deluded.
All they have to do is fill it up and wait, hurricane season will take care of the rest of the plan.
Ausschwitz was from the beginning a destruction camp
Concentration camps were not all for killing. Dachau was for political prisoners and only late 1944s got a gas chamber.
The nazis didnt kill the “undesireable races” right away. They used them as slaves. Only near the end they fully began the killing on industrial scale.
Hi. Greetings from germany. Exactly 20 minutes from Dachau KZ.
Lege dich nicht mit mir in einer Debatte über die Pläne und vorhergehensweise der Nazis an.
Interesting, so you’re telling me that everything I ever learned about Nazi occupied Poland is wrong then? The first gassings at Auschwitz were in 1941, 2 years after the first camp was established there. There were several camps but they started with one camp and worked their way up to gas chambers. If you’re going to tell me I’m wrong, your source ought to be better than “I’m a German millennial.” Because even the first 3 paragraphs on Wikipedia provide better sources than that.
Try me, I’ll argue all day about Nazi plans, because the only way to stomp out a flame is to know why it’s burning.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp
Lol im not even a millenial.
Yes Ausschwitz-Birkenau was a destruction camp. Yes the end goal of the nazis was always to kill the “undesierables”. But not every camp was a destruction camp. Im every camp they killed, but difference is on how and what scale.
It was the nazis plan from the beginning to kill, homosexuals, jews, sinti and roma, slavic people, homeless, and more. That was their end goal from the beginning yes. But to compare the thing going on in the USA, to a concentration camp like Ausschwitz-Birkenau, is negligent.
To elaborate on the nazi camps:
There were different types though. Work camps and destruction camps being the big two categories.
Destruction camps were to just kill. Work camps used the inmates as slaves for the industrie. They were still inhumane, cruel and barbaric, and didnt care about the lifes of the inmates. Though the goal here was not right away killing, but working the inmates to death threw exhaustion.
Putting these camp types on the same step deminishes the horrors of destruction camps. And comparing those things to what ever is going on in the USA (of which i dont have the full picture) deminishes the horrors of all the concentration camps.
Further elaboration:
There werent just camps in poland, but all over nazi occupied europe. France, Netherlands, Denmark, Italy, Belgium, Norway, Ukraine, Belerus, Poland, Lithuania aso.
The first one was build in 1933: Dachau. The model camp. It was a work camp with many outer camps like Augsburg-Pferrsee. In Augsburg-Pferrsee the inmates were forced to work in the Messerschmidt Factories for example.
The destruction camps were erected from spring 1942, with Ausschwitz-Birkenau being the first one, and began their industrial killing with the polish, jews and others. These are the once you think of when thinking concentration camps. Massive industrial killing with gas chambers.
Ausschwitz 1 was erected 1940. Death was massive, yes, but not threw gas chambers but threw starvation, lacking hygeen, and exhaustion from slave labor. It was a work camp. The work camps didnt do it on massive scale and only late into the war. In Dachau there was no gas chamber until 1943 as example.
What trump is building in florida can be categoriesed as a concentration camp, I dont disagree you there, but putting it as an equal to Ausschwitz-Birkenau, again, deminishes the true horrors of the holocaust.
Arguing against the comparison diminishes the harm that can come from a modern day concentration camp. If you want the Holocaust to stay in the history books and not find their way back into the news, you’d compare the two without hesitation. If you’re so familiar with the process, then you’d be screaming at every turn about what is obviously happening. If we can’t make the comparison between this camp and Auschwitz until we are gassing Latinos in America, then it is too late to stop it.
The argument over the minute details and terminology being not exactly the same is so brutally insane. I can’t even wrap my head around it honestly.
Based on their laws, if the adverse setting they’ve placed a pregnant woman in causes a miscarriage, all of the employees are partially responsible for a homicide right? Since life begins at conception right?
The problem in your logic here is that immigrant children aren’t people in their eyes, so fetus or not they can’t be murdered.
Florida Lawmakers Sound Alarm Over Plans ‘To Send Pregnant Women & Children’ to
‘Alligator Alcatraz’concentration campFTFY
Alligator Auschwitz
Call it what it is: a concentration camp, a death camp, or perhaps Alligator Auschwitz.
Alcatraz housed convicted felons. This place is housing non-criminals. Immigration is a civil infraction, like a parking ticket. If you ever stole something from the store or got in a fight, you’re more of a criminal than these folks.
“What we’re witnessing isn’t about security or solving problems,” they said in a joint statement, “It’s about inhumane political theater that endangers real people.”
Yep. It’s a theater of cruelty that would have delighted the Marquis de Sade.
When trump dies the world will celebrate
No one mourns the wicked
It’s concentration camp. Why is anyone surprised?
just call it Alligator Auschwitz.
Of course they’re going to send children and pregnant women. Do they think the Nazi Germans were all “you know what? the jew kids and pregnant jew women are too much for this. lets leave them alone.” no. You don’t gear up for a genocide by picking and choosing those within the group you plan on genociding.
Wait this place is really named “Alligator Alcatraz”? That’s not a “funny” quirky name the media came up with?
Latinos overwhelmingly voted for this 70%.
Sorry, not sorry.
The children didn’t vote
But their parents did. Pharaoh in the book of Exodus did not listen either.
Some of them did, many voted against it. And of those who didn’t vote at all, many of them didn’t have an option to vote.
Nobody deserves this. These people were suckered by a conman who has decades of experience conning people. That doesn’t warrant a death sentence or even imprisonment.
If a successful coalition is to be formed, it has to be made up of former Trump voters. We won’t have the numbers otherwise.
This is true, but at the same time those voting for him need to be smarter than a rock come voting season. It’s hard to have empathy for those crying about how Trump has wrecked their lives after they so shamelessly/stupidly supported him.
“Empathy” is what the right completely lacks, and it’s what Democrats have begun abandoning because it’s not in vogue. However, empathy is the one thing that helps us unite across boundaries that the right tries to convince us are unsurpassable. Empathy is what makes us strong.
I get that being angry is easier than being productive, but we really need to be productive right now, and writing off large groups of people because of their perceived failings is not helping.
Most of the people being sent to these camps are going to be undocumented, so they couldn’t have voted in the election if they tried.
Well… for one, empathy tells me that whoever ends up there after having voted for this, this is ok. Sute, it is cruel, now how about empathy for those people who did not want this and will still end up there? How about empathy to people who happened to be around those idiots who wanted this and got shitload of crappy attitude and worse from them? Or does anyone think for those millions supporting these atrocities - this very support is the only ugly thing they ever did and ever will do?
You trust people with 20 IQs that want you dead? You can’t be that stupid.
No they didn’t. You just posted a made up a number and did it in the service of dehumanizing a minority population. And the people getting deported (at least now) didn’t vote for anyone, they aren’t citizens.
This comment is sus as hell. Exactly something a right winger would post to cause mistrust in opposition groups. And even if it isn’t, you need to learn some media literacy if you’re just parroting an obviously fake percentage like that.
Yeah, at this point I have zero sympathy for anyone who voted for them. You find yourself without health insurance, a home, being deported, having your workers deported? Welcome to the find out phase of FAaFO.
None of these people voted at all. They literally couldn’t vote against this.
the stats exist, you can check them instead of making shit up; the Latine vote was pretty close, but they still voted more for harris globally, tho i believe Latino men in particular voted ever so slightly more for trump
the only racial group who overwhelmingly voted trump, across men and women, and this is gonna SHOCK you!!, are whites.
whites voted for this; when are we rounding them up in concentration camps? when are we deporting them to europe?
Fuck off with this racist revanchism.
These are people who are ripe for radicalization against the regime, and we need everyone we can get.
As a black man here who has watched black people time and time again advocate, fight, and push for Latino rights and representation; knowing at the end of the day, many Latinos wanted to be white so badly that becoming a “pick me” with their vote was more important than unity made me come to this conclusion:
“Bye Felicia.”
First off I don’t know where you got 70% from, but from what I see a majority voted for Harris. It was close (because support for the Democratic candidate fell and because participation fell) so Trump got 48% of their vote, but that’s all it was. Close.
Second, to complicate this further, 41% didn’t vote.
Third, leaving aside the fact that your grievances aren’t based in reality; your revanchism is basically making you side with the Republicans in their ethnic cleansing campaign. Your position is making you indistinguishable from any Republican.
What we need to be doing is building a broad coalition of resistance against the regime, not trying to use the regime to settle grievances. If we don’t unite oppressed members of society against Trump he’s just going to pick us off one by one. Divide and conquer.
You may have a point.
I should be directly my ire at white women knowing the broodmares conservatives are going to make them and they still majority went for him.
From the source I posted, white women still only favored Trump by a 4-point margin. Is that enough to write them all off?
Its been a wild trip watching all the liberals reveal that they are spiteful pathetic spineless racist assholes after Kamala tried and failed to win on a campaign of conservative pro genocide and border militarization.
Like sorry what’s your problem with fascism exactly? It clearly isn’t the genocide or racism. Or is racism towards minority groups you are not a part of fine in your eyes? Is genocide justified against a community due to the actions of any members of that community? Is the murder of children? Are you generally pro ethnic cleansing?
The problem is dipshits like you. Liberals have finally been dragged to your level and it scares shitheads like you because we are always supposed to turn to other cheek while you act like entitled monkeys flinging shit.
No. We are done forgiving. We are doing being nice. And if you can’t accept cruelty now being flung your way, well then tough shit.
I’ll ask again, if youre pro genocide and pro racism then what is your problem with fascism? They are also pro both of those things. I dont see why you didnt vote for it yourself if you are that ideologically aligned with them.
Liberals are the furthest thing from scary. You’re just fascisms little helpers. The best you guys got is stalling. Push comes to shove you’d all bow down to fascism rather than risk your lives to fight against it. I’m not afraid of lap dogs.
Whataboutism at its finest. Go lick der fuhrer’s boots and leave intellectual arguments to adults.
Not sure where I’m deflecting the discussion to another subject. I basically just reiterated my first comment after you told me I was apparently scared of you lmao
Not the OP, but I think your comments are being interpreted as allegations of OP’s positions on things that are based on assumptions you’ve made based on the original comment, but aren’t necessarily based on the contents itself.
Calling someone a spiteful, spineless, pathetic racist isn’t exactly a fabulous way to begin a meaningful engagement. Instead, you’re both talking past one another because you’re not operating from any sort of common basis.
Ok so. How has no one taken a drone out to this facility and gotten a recording of the entire exterior of it?
Because based on what I’ve seen, a couple of guys with bolt cutters could do some serious damage to it.
Hell, have we learned nothing from Ukraine? Get some cheap ass FPV drones to land with strips of thermite?
Like I’m 1.5k miles from where it is, so that’s a bit of a problem for me. But how is there no one in Florida capable of this kind of thinking?
It’s like everyone completely has no idea what “sabotage” is, and that you don’t need to hurt people to defeat a regime.
I do wonder whether it would be possible to use drones with explosives to blow these things up, ideally before people get there.
Not explosives. Too risky, too uncontrolled. Too much debris. Risk of drone leaving too much evidence behind to track. When stamping out cancer: precision when possible. Technology if necessary. Chemotherapy last.
These concentration camps are tumors, caused by an already widespread cancer, that is extremely slow to kill, but very resistant to chemo. The turmors can be excized to lengthen and improve the patient’s life by small amounts.
A sandwich bag of aluminum and rust with a magnesium starter will melt through 4 inches of steel.
besides, the major reason why i like molotov cocktails and similar things is because of how easily they are made and it doesn’t require any special ingredients. they can be made either with alcohol or gasoline, and both are widely available. the thing with the aluminium, rust and magnesium is that some of these ingredients aren’t exactly what you’d find in every home, and if trump goes all-in, he surely will make it illegal to sell these things in shops if people actually do use it to build fireworks out of them.
A sandwich bag of aluminum and rust with a magnesium starter will melt through 4 inches of steel.
how do you apply that practically? you’ll hardly have time to install that setup on the car of an ICE vehicle or some place where you pass by by chance. Where else could that be useful?
Well, anything that is made of something that melts below 2500-4500 C for starters.
If your imagination is having a tough time figuring out how to deliver it, I recommend watching some videos out of Ukraine. As far as practicality, I’ll refer you to WWII sabotage tricks.
