The destruction of Palestine is breaking the world | Moustafa Bayoumi
www.theguardian.com
The rules of the institutions that define our lives bend like reeds when it comes to Israel – so much that the whole global order is on the verge of collapse

Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
    1317·
    24 days ago

    I’m pretty sure it’s just Trump breaking the world order and eroding the freedom of Americans.

    When the Israel-Hamas war is over do you really think everything is going to go back to normal in the US and the rest of the world?

    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      142·
      24 days ago

      Read the article. The most egregious violations occurred during the Biden administration. Biden is better at Trump as a whole, but on the Gaza issue, both have support for Israel locked in at 100%. People often fall for the marketing - Biden virtue signals while Trump vice signals. Biden made a few token show gestures towards Palestinian rights, and Trump gleefully celebrates his cruelty. But in terms of actual tangible support for Israel? Trump’s record is a direct continuation of Biden’s. The Biden admin for example were the first ones to propose the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. That isn’t something Trump came up with - he just vice signaled with his stupid ‘Gaza riviera’ plan, while Biden’s plan for ethnic cleansing was discussed quietly.

    • pulsewidth@lemmy.worldEnglish
      143·
      24 days ago

      Myopic US take. The Israel lobby is all through the western world and has pushed almost every government into the corner of accepting this racist genocidal war lest they be labelled anti-Semitic.

        • pulsewidth@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          23 days ago

          Reason is not justification, I excuse nothing - just pointing our it’s much wider than the US.

          • rumimevlevi@lemmings.worldEnglish
            41·
            22 days ago

            The major west countries are neocolonials an racist powers that’s the real reason. If they can do an economical war with china they can do it with israel too

      • shoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        23 days ago

        I really don’t understand where this idea comes from of a country with the 40th rank GDP having the pull to mastermind politics worldwide. For reference: their revenue is about the same as Apple, whose lobbying sees less success despite being more politically neutral.

        The reason they have international support is because it’s convenient and their location + antagonism align with the geopolitics of a large group of states. Isreal is a dog on a leash, what we’re seeing Trump do is give them unprecedented lead to genocide at will.

        Letting them go this far and long without tugging their collar back to peace talks is not the historical norm, no matter how hard you point at Biden. Did Biden take direct military action to support them? Has any US president?

        This Isreali lobbying is a boogeyman; Isreal could dissolve tomorrow and you would see another antagonist spring up in the region with international backing. People are just uncomfortable with their country being aligned with the bad guys of their own free will.

        • pulsewidth@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          23 days ago

          What you’re failing to include in your calculations is how cheap political sway is to buy worldwide. You don’t need to be the wealthiest nation in the world to place several $50k political donations per year to the two major parties and some of their key politicians, and keep a lobbying firm in the nation’s capital well-funded to wines and dines key politicians and journalists.

          Manufacturing consent is financially trivial for Israel, they’ve been practicing it for 50 years and the machine is institutionalized.

          • shoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            22 days ago

            You don’t nose dive your country and lock up/deport dissenters over chump change, you’re losing more in stability and face (and the more lucrative bribes that come with those) than its worth. Trump’s irrational instability has dropped the dollar value more than any of these donations could cover. The math doesn’t add up.

            The payment you’re describing is a tithe; a show of gratitude and servitude. You wouldn’t say a feudal vassal has power over his lord just because the material exchange only goes one way.

    • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
      7·
      24 days ago

      The complicity of many national governments in this genocide, including my own (Canada), will be remembered with disdain.