The destruction of Palestine is breaking the world | Moustafa Bayoumi
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The rules of the institutions that define our lives bend like reeds when it comes to Israel – so much that the whole global order is on the verge of collapse

Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

  • rumimevlevi@lemmings.worldEnglish
    10·
    24 days ago

    It was always about stealing local people land and displace them

    Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

    The property owners will come over to our side. According to my conception, the majority of the local population will have to be transferred elsewhere.

    We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country. - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

    Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly - Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895

    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      24 days ago

      Hertzel’s version, yes. He also tried to get literally cecil rhodes to help. There were others, and people who hated that guy. It didnt quite mean just one thing til a few years later, though.

      In the modern definition of the word, yes, its herzel’s that won. I woukd never defend what it is in earnest, only point out that before it started to congeal, it could have been/meant other things.

      • rumimevlevi@lemmings.worldEnglish
        1·
        24 days ago

        He didn’t win. Antisemite is still a big problem and isrsel is making it even worse. Jews are still not safe anywhere

        Which version was not sbout forcing a state on other people and could realistically work without mass displacement and ethenic cleansing?

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          31·
          24 days ago

          he didnt win

          Feels like he got to sieze the definition, do all his atrocities.

          antisemitism is still a big problem

          To you, maybe. To zionists, that’s a feature!

          jews are still not safe anywhere

          Nobody is, dear. Safety does not grow in walled gardens, and we firebomb the commons pretty regularly.

          which version was not about explicitly being a fucking monster

          I forget their main advocates or if they were calked specific things, most of what i know about this was chatting with an old historian and an article i read a billion years ago, but there really were different ideas of it as recently as the thirties, like joining already extant communities somewhere. They were, like any 19th century european idea, never completely unproblematic, but some of them tried and at least read as genuinely well intentioned, and there was a lot of schismy bitterness as the meaning of thr word crystalized around hertzel’s thing. Now of course it’s one of tge most vile words in English, but he did not invent it. Mightve been the one who imported it to english.