• heythatsprettygood@feddit.uk
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    21 hours ago

    I don’t get why Sony and Nintendo refuse to follow Xbox and just have a battery door you can throw AAs or a battery pack into. It is a far better design. Still, props to Nintendo for being the only one of the big three to have modular sticks on all their regular controllers (Sony and Microsoft have soldered sticks except on their high end controllers). Disassembly seems a bit tedious on this controller but not a total nightmare. However, all of them need to have modular USB ports, as it’s a common failure point that needs to be user serviceable. I do wonder how Nintendo are going to handle the new EU repairability laws when they release Switch 2 revisions.

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      I’ve been arguing this point about the batteries for ages. I bought a rechargeable set from Costco for like $12. Six AA batteries on rotation in my Xbox controllers means I can game wirelessly in perpetuity. I’ve been using those same batteries for over 5 years now and only recently felt it could be time for some new ones.

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        13 hours ago

        If you have one nearby, get your new rechargeables from IKEA. The LADDA 2450s are far cheaper rebrands of the usually decently expensive Panasonic Eneloop Pro, and they last such a long time compared to most rechargeables.

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      16 hours ago

      I’ve seen videos where people have replaced the sticks on the base sony controllers with hall effect sticks. They also have hall effect on the more expensive ones, of course.

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        You can put hall effects on the base DualSense, but it requires a lot of soldering work, putting it beyond most people’s reach compared to a simple connector, and most people would get another controller. Hall effect on the Edge is very easy though, since those sticks are modular.

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    It is obvious that they don’t want average consumers fixing these. What parent has the time to take the controller apart like that to change the battery. Nintendo are slime

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    Years ago, controllers where almost unbreakable. Look at where we are now.

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    Can someone explain where the assumption comes from that the sticks are definitely going to drift, just because they use potentiometers? I get that people got burned by the Switch 1 Joycons, but doesn’t pretty much every other gamepad ever (except perhaps a few specialty ones) also use that technology for the sticks?

    I’ve personally never had any sticks develop drift, on any controller I’ve owned. If Xbox, Playstation, PC and older Nintendo controllers all didn’t have the problems the Switch 1 Joycons did, then why the assumption the Switch 2 will be like the Switch 1 and not like all the other consoles that use potentiometer sticks with no issues?

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      Can someone explain where the assumption comes from that the sticks are definitely going to drift, just because they use potentiometers? I get that people got burned by the Switch 1 Joycons, but doesn’t pretty much every other gamepad ever (except perhaps a few specialty ones) also use that technology for the sticks?

      Nobody really knows. But Nintendo remains silent on the topic, and combined with people looking into the controller and seeing the exacty same technology this raises a lot of concerns.

      The fact that they made both Joycon and Pro Controller so much harder to repair also adds to this - one of the saving graces of the Switch 1 Joycons was how easy it was to repair. If we find out in a few months that drift remains a problem in this one it’s going to be a far, far worse problem between higher costs for accessories and low repairability.

      So while I agree there’s plenty of speculation going on, I also think it’s an important topic that should be heavily discussed so people are aware of the risks when purchasing the console.

      I’ve personally never had any sticks develop drift

      You’re lucky. I’ve had two pairs of joycons drift (one of them twice) and also had this problem on both sticks of my Pro controller.

      I’ll probably buy a Switch 2 at some point in the future, but outside of handheld mode I’ll just stick to my Switch 1 accessories which have all be modded with Hall Sticks.

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      All potentiometer based controllers can drift eventually, the problem is the joycons are very thin and drift fairly quickly. Normally it takes years of heavy usage (think a competitive smash player jamming the thing back and forth) to become a problem. Joy cons fail under relatively average usage in a year or two, which is not normal.

      Everyone assumes the Switch 2 joysticks are going to have the problem because they look almost exactly the same as the Switch 1 joysticks.

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      my joycons didn’t drift but my brother’s did, all of them. I gave him mine and took my sweet ass time replacing the sticks in his. I put hall effect in one pair and pots in the other. Mine came back with drift. Then his second pot stick joycons came back with drift. I put hall sticks in all of them and so far so good.

      My assumption is that handling of the controllers and the game’s stick use intensity come in to play.

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        11 hours ago

        I’ve had 8 joy cons drift. 6 of them I sent in to have Nintendo fix, the last pair I fixed myself with Hall effect sticks. I’ve also replaced some friends joycons with Hall effect sticks.

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    The only good point was sticks aren’t soldered this time. Rest of the design seems overly complicated. Though, I don’t really know much about these things.