• smol_beans@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    You started this discussion by implying that Palestine became better off when the ottomans left, that is not true.

    You implied it was good that Britain took the land from the ottomans, I’m simply asking you to justify that position considering what has happened since then, which you cannot do

    • azuth@sh.itjust.works
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      18 hours ago

      No, you answered this.(Emphasis mine). The guy might be scum but broken clock and all that.

      Sure… we’d all be better off if only the Ottoman empire continued to exist forever!

      With “Unironically yes”. This is what I am answering. The Ottoman empire continuing to exist and it’s effect on all of us, not just the Palestinians.

      Of course there wouldn’t be an effect on you would there be? You have demonstrated you don’t actually care for any other peoples in the Ottoman empire’s grip but the Palestinians. Obviously you don’t actually care about them outside you political arguments.

      I am not implying anything, I am straight out saying it, for most non-Turks life is better than it would have been under the Ottoman empire.

      The genocides started before the end if the empire and they also did not come out of nowhere. Trying to counter my older post via an edit with such inaccuracies is pathetic.

      The genocides happening at the tail end of the empire does not really help your case that we would be better off if it wasn’t killed off. It’s far more compelling evidence of what the empire would do than if the genocides happened centuries before.

      Tldr: Less people have suffered than they would have if the Ottoman empire survived. The Palestinians are an exception.