Bullshit. This is the propaganda employers use so employees don’t have information to make educated decisions. There are already industries that have payroll information available to all employees, or even fully publicly available.
The simple fact is most people don’t resent each other for being paid less, they resent the employer exploiting them, as they should.
I just wrote my comment on this particular issue. I had a coworker complain that I made more than them and Boss tried to shame me for it.
Weirdly though I became the manager at my next place and had no problem sitting someone down and telling them why they weren’t making as much as their counterparts and when they’d get their scheduled raise and how they could improve and possibly get a bonus raise based purely on merit.
Some people get salty, some people rise to the occasion. The ones that rise to the occasion are dedicated, they’re receptive to constructive criticism and eager to show you they want to improve. It’s just as much a breathe of fresh air for me to see them so happy that they actually got a raise and I wasn’t just blowing smoke up their asses as it was for them to actually get a raise.
After two raises to two different people I had shown my owner that his money was being put to good use because we got long standing, dedicated employees that went above and beyond. He never questioned it again after that when I proposed a raise for a coworker. Good man, and a good team.
Wrong. I posted my entire pay history on my cube wall with yearly gain adjusted for inflation, 19 years worth of data. It was there for at least ten years and i shared the underlying data freely. No one was mad at me, but they were upset at management.
Every industry is different. But in a warehouse that I worked at, people tattletale on each other all the fucking time, if your coworkers see you just glancing at your phone for 2 seconds to see the time, you get instantly reported to the supervisor. Like what the actual fuck.
Maybe your industry is different, in which case, good for you. But you don’t know just how insane people are. And that was a unionized place btw, even the union reps are playing sides and favoring some workers over others. If you got on the union rep’s bad side, they won’t even bother to defend you against the company (like they’ll half-ass any obligations they have).
The proletariat, at least in the US, are not united at all.
edit: I mean, fuckit. Lets use it like a disagree button on Reddit. Dick. I’ll help by putting this one at zero right off the bat. GTFO with your solidarity talk
The way to solve this is to pay people fair and equal wages. Union employees all know how much everyone makes (at least my union), and nobody is jealous and starts workplace drama. We might be pissed if someone’s in a higher position than us and therefore getting paid better, but that’s an issue in any workplace.
If someone is getting paid more for the same work (as in, they’re in a higher position so they’re getting paid better), then the employee takes it up with the union who fights on their behalf to improve their salary.
Payment transparency leads to employees having the ability to demand change and argue for themselves.
Unions aren’t a perfect system but there’s a reason they work.
Unions aren’t a perfect system but there’s a reason they work.
I think you misunderstand. Unions aren’t the problem, it’s the spineless useless union reps that don’t adequetly protect the workers. Like he would advocate for those that he’s friends with, but then they have a beef with you for some weird reason and then neglect their duties to help you with stuff. Kinda like politicians in a democracy not representing their constituents. Its not the democracy being a problem, its a people problem.
Tbh, Idk why dipshits get elected as the union rep, but dumb people exist in the electorate, just as with the union members.
(But I don’t work there anymore so that’s out of my hands, their problem to fix)
People that get paid less will get jealous of the ones getting paid more, and start workplace drama against their fellow proletarians.
Sorry but your daydream of an uprising aint happening, people are quick to blame someone within their reach rather than some faceless corporation.
Bullshit. This is the propaganda employers use so employees don’t have information to make educated decisions. There are already industries that have payroll information available to all employees, or even fully publicly available.
The simple fact is most people don’t resent each other for being paid less, they resent the employer exploiting them, as they should.
I just wrote my comment on this particular issue. I had a coworker complain that I made more than them and Boss tried to shame me for it.
Weirdly though I became the manager at my next place and had no problem sitting someone down and telling them why they weren’t making as much as their counterparts and when they’d get their scheduled raise and how they could improve and possibly get a bonus raise based purely on merit.
Some people get salty, some people rise to the occasion. The ones that rise to the occasion are dedicated, they’re receptive to constructive criticism and eager to show you they want to improve. It’s just as much a breathe of fresh air for me to see them so happy that they actually got a raise and I wasn’t just blowing smoke up their asses as it was for them to actually get a raise.
After two raises to two different people I had shown my owner that his money was being put to good use because we got long standing, dedicated employees that went above and beyond. He never questioned it again after that when I proposed a raise for a coworker. Good man, and a good team.
Wrong. I posted my entire pay history on my cube wall with yearly gain adjusted for inflation, 19 years worth of data. It was there for at least ten years and i shared the underlying data freely. No one was mad at me, but they were upset at management.
Local, county, state government employee salaries are public, and they still seems to be running fine for hundreds of years.
Unless…
Unless our brains stop being based on tribal monkey hardware?
Oh bullshit.
Every industry is different. But in a warehouse that I worked at, people tattletale on each other all the fucking time, if your coworkers see you just glancing at your phone for 2 seconds to see the time, you get instantly reported to the supervisor. Like what the actual fuck.
Maybe your industry is different, in which case, good for you. But you don’t know just how insane people are. And that was a unionized place btw, even the union reps are playing sides and favoring some workers over others. If you got on the union rep’s bad side, they won’t even bother to defend you against the company (like they’ll half-ass any obligations they have).
The proletariat, at least in the US, are not united at all.
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The way to solve this is to pay people fair and equal wages. Union employees all know how much everyone makes (at least my union), and nobody is jealous and starts workplace drama. We might be pissed if someone’s in a higher position than us and therefore getting paid better, but that’s an issue in any workplace.
If someone is getting paid more for the same work (as in, they’re in a higher position so they’re getting paid better), then the employee takes it up with the union who fights on their behalf to improve their salary.
Payment transparency leads to employees having the ability to demand change and argue for themselves.
Unions aren’t a perfect system but there’s a reason they work.
I think you misunderstand. Unions aren’t the problem, it’s the spineless useless union reps that don’t adequetly protect the workers. Like he would advocate for those that he’s friends with, but then they have a beef with you for some weird reason and then neglect their duties to help you with stuff. Kinda like politicians in a democracy not representing their constituents. Its not the democracy being a problem, its a people problem.
Tbh, Idk why dipshits get elected as the union rep, but dumb people exist in the electorate, just as with the union members.
(But I don’t work there anymore so that’s out of my hands, their problem to fix)