Hospitals have no business testing for drugs without cause, which they do in the US per the article: “Hospitals across the country routinely drug test people coming in to give birth.” Screening people routinely for drugs is some police state shit.
You’re right, it doesn’t say that she didn’t consent. It also doesn’t say she did either, the article simply doesn’t address it.
However, I just cannot imagine a scenario, where someone would be consenting to a drug test without coercion, can you? Why would she? If you didn’t take drugs, there’s no benefit. If you did take drugs and you want the doctors to know, tell them. If you took drugs and you don’t want the doctors to know, you don’t consent. And that doesn’t even take into account false positives. I don’t see any conceivable reason why anyone would subject themselves to a drug test where no possible outcome would be positive for you. So, please enlighten me, how are these completely voluntary drug tests with zero benefit to the test subject so common?
Add to that, that these tests are not good enough for random testing. You have too many false positives, so you must have additional indicators of drug use to even consider them from a purely scientific perspective.
Hospitals have no business testing for drugs without cause, which they do in the US per the article: “Hospitals across the country routinely drug test people coming in to give birth.” Screening people routinely for drugs is some police state shit.
Yes, they do. You can’t trust the self-reporting of patients when it comes to drugs, especially when it comes to the life of a yet-to-be-born child, who may be affected by said drugs. It’s a totally rational thing to do for the sake of a newborn. It’s not some “police state shit,” it’s completely rational medical care.
However, I just cannot imagine a scenario, where someone would be consenting to a drug test without coercion, can you?
LOL, I absolutely can. If you believe you haven’t ingested any drugs, what’s the harm in having yourself tested? If anything, the outcome you expect to happen simply adds credence to you. Where do you live that people who aren’t on drugs would categorically refuse to be tested? Because their “privacy” rights are being tested? Who cares about being tested for a crime when you know you’re in the clear? The test literally becomes evidence in your favor.
Add to that, that these tests are not good enough for random testing.
I’ll concede I don’t know enough about these tests to comment on their validity. But that’s a separate argument to be made in court, regardless of the result.
Hospitals have no business testing for drugs without cause, which they do in the US per the article: “Hospitals across the country routinely drug test people coming in to give birth.” Screening people routinely for drugs is some police state shit.
You’re right, it doesn’t say that she didn’t consent. It also doesn’t say she did either, the article simply doesn’t address it.
However, I just cannot imagine a scenario, where someone would be consenting to a drug test without coercion, can you? Why would she? If you didn’t take drugs, there’s no benefit. If you did take drugs and you want the doctors to know, tell them. If you took drugs and you don’t want the doctors to know, you don’t consent. And that doesn’t even take into account false positives. I don’t see any conceivable reason why anyone would subject themselves to a drug test where no possible outcome would be positive for you. So, please enlighten me, how are these completely voluntary drug tests with zero benefit to the test subject so common?
Add to that, that these tests are not good enough for random testing. You have too many false positives, so you must have additional indicators of drug use to even consider them from a purely scientific perspective.
Yes, they do. You can’t trust the self-reporting of patients when it comes to drugs, especially when it comes to the life of a yet-to-be-born child, who may be affected by said drugs. It’s a totally rational thing to do for the sake of a newborn. It’s not some “police state shit,” it’s completely rational medical care.
LOL, I absolutely can. If you believe you haven’t ingested any drugs, what’s the harm in having yourself tested? If anything, the outcome you expect to happen simply adds credence to you. Where do you live that people who aren’t on drugs would categorically refuse to be tested? Because their “privacy” rights are being tested? Who cares about being tested for a crime when you know you’re in the clear? The test literally becomes evidence in your favor.
I’ll concede I don’t know enough about these tests to comment on their validity. But that’s a separate argument to be made in court, regardless of the result.
Having a baby is a cause for drug testing though.
Please explain?