• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    lol cool so he just said the quiet part of the playbook out loud.

    For those in the back: he’s gonna get the US in to a Serious Fucking War right before the next election so that he can pretend he’s got justification to call off elections.

    Pay no mind to the fact that FDR won his third term at the peak of WW2.

    Come to think of it: that’s probably why he wants to do it: he knows he probably can’t win another election (putting aside the illegality of running and serving for a third term), and doesn’t want to think about himself being overshadowed by “some old librul Democrat from the 1940s”. And yes, that is a completely serious guesstimate on orangeboi’s rationale for this.

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      4 hours ago

      He truly just cannot help himself… Could be our one saving grace. That and the sheer incompetence.

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      7 hours ago

      Legally, it won’t matter. He doesn’t hold office until the next guy, his term ends in 2029. If there is no replacement, the office is simply vacant, and we already have processes for that.

      Legally, it won’t matter. If (when) he’s ignoring the laws to that level, it doesn’t matter what anyone pretends happened with an election. The laws will have no bearing anyway.

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        7 hours ago

        Most importantly, the states run the elections.

        So he can “cancel” the election, but only red states would listen. Blue states would still hold elections and report results. And with red states not holding elections, it’s safe to say any election would lean heavily left.

        So republicans would only lose seats, and trump would get zero electoral college votes. Well, most likely every red state would still try to send electors for trump

        After midterms we’ll be able to see what’s gonna happen if that plays out.

        But honestly, blue states should be prioritizing building up their own NG the next three years just in case.

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          6 hours ago

          Or alternately-

          1. He cancels/delays the election due to a national emergency. He could potentially delay until the following Jan 20, arguing all the while that he’s “cancelled” the election. Shifting, contradictory public statements muddy the waters.
          2. Some blue states move ahead with elections anyway, arguing that the delay is unconstitutional.
          3. The supreme court rules that delay is constitutional with a dissenting democrat minority.
          4. Red states claim blue state elections are invalid and an attempted coup (because after January 6th, they love applying that word to things).
          5. Blue states select a president, Trump denies the results (we have a precedent for this now) and refuses to cede power to the president elect.
          6. As the January 20th deadline rolls around, Trump jails the new president as a traitor, following up on the claims from his base that the election was a coup.
          7. January deadline passes, Trump arguing simultaneously that the election was a Democrat takeover AND that the Democrats cheated because red states didn’t hold elections.
          8. With no (free) political opponents, Trump releases an executive order stating that the office of the presidency must be filled at all times, and remains in office.
          9. Multiple court cases are filed and allowed to creep through the courts before being dismissed for various reasons.
          10. People begin to adapt, normalize the situation, and eventually become distracted by a new scandal.
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        6 hours ago

        It’s cute that you think laws matter to the fascists.

        That’s the entire point of what I’m trying to point out here. You’re stuck on what “legality” means. I’m saying they’re changing the definition.

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      7 hours ago

      That’ll be before the midterms, in case anyone wasn’t clear about that.

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        Every American idiot worth any less than 5 million USD needs this critical fact drilled into their head for the next 440 days.

        If you’re lucky, and you’re allowed to vote in the US midterms, they will be your very last chance to save yourself and anyone you give a fuck about from relentless and inescapable hell on earth. If you fight like your life depends on it, maybe you won’t die in a global war, but every other scenario involves your suffering and death no matter whose side you’re on.