We should not try to see those laws ever enforced?
We should see things as they really are and stop playing make-believe. Digging in your heels and saying “You can’t do that because the First Amendment stops you!” is akin to some sovereign citizen announcing he can’t be convicted of a crime because the flag has a yellow fringe.
The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. And if you live in denial, insisting that people can’t hurt you because laws protect you, you’re going to have a very bad time when the cops come knocking at your door.
Just give up and accept it?
Not at all. You’ve got to reach out to your neighbors, join community groups, unionize your workforce, and oppose the fascist government at every opportunity. And you’ve got to do it knowing you’ll be breaking the law at some point along the line.
If you want to talk about Israeli BDS, you’ve got to talk about it like a guerrilla fighting an insurgency not like a customer choosing Pepsi over Coca-Cola.
I don’t agree with your analysis of what I am saying here. Wanting a restoration of the Republic is not playing Make-Believe, it is not surrendering.
Obviously we already talked about the rules not being honored, nobody is making believe they are being honored on this thread.
But within the rules of the government we have we could fix the government and Society. It is just a matter of getting good leadership to get us there and organizing behind them.
Wanting a restoration of the Republic is not playing Make-Believe
Clinging to the mythology of the American system is.
But within the rules of the government we have we could fix the government
That’s been disproven repeatedly and categorically going at least back to Nixon. We’ve been repeating the cycle of Conservative Breaks Rules / Liberal Sweeps It Under The Rug for 50 years, easily.
How many more generations plan to get Rope-a-Doped by toothless establishment hacks?
It is just a matter of getting good leadership to get us there and organizing behind them.
Who could you name that would qualify? Are we going to get a big name blue state prosecutor like checks notes Kamala Harris?
I don’t know what you think you are even arguing here. I know the system can work because it did work. In the post-war years until the 1970s. Only after business started to cooperate on a long game to undo the New Deal did it all go to shit. Piece by piece. In 1972 the business Round Table made a long game and it has since been refined.
That was over 50 years ago. The amount of fuckery that has happened would take another 50 years to undo assuming the Democrats were up to the task. They are not which is the reason things are so bleak today
My point is we organize and take the dem party, strong leadership that can build and run a pol machine, we could get back there in 2029, assuming r’s are too busy infighting and too disenchanted to steal an election they clearly lost. All state level cheating still losing the election that is and congress and scotus not granting it to the loser anyway.
A famously great time to be an American, assuming you weren’t colored, Latino, LGBTQ, or a woman.
In 1972 the business Round Table made a long game and it has since been refined.
American corporate collaboration didn’t begin in 1972. You can trace it back to the antebellum era and the birth of American industrialization.
The New Deal was a historical aberration that came through the rapid economic attrition of the Great Depression. Prior to the Depression of '32, Henry Ford, JP Morgan, and John D. Rockefeller were individually as powerful as any half dozen elected officials combined.
Yes anytime the new deal is brought up the detractors say that minorities were discriminated against, so, nothing they did counts. Defective logic, nothing anyone did ever would count using that logic.
Give me one historical example where you could not find injustice to negate using an example from? Just one. Nothing now would count. Nothing in us history.
Using that argument is telling of where your head is at, perhaps actively stymying resistance, to accelerate the decline mistakenly believing something better would replace it. That is the more charitable take on your use of that argument too.
We should see things as they really are and stop playing make-believe. Digging in your heels and saying “You can’t do that because the First Amendment stops you!” is akin to some sovereign citizen announcing he can’t be convicted of a crime because the flag has a yellow fringe.
The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. And if you live in denial, insisting that people can’t hurt you because laws protect you, you’re going to have a very bad time when the cops come knocking at your door.
Not at all. You’ve got to reach out to your neighbors, join community groups, unionize your workforce, and oppose the fascist government at every opportunity. And you’ve got to do it knowing you’ll be breaking the law at some point along the line.
If you want to talk about Israeli BDS, you’ve got to talk about it like a guerrilla fighting an insurgency not like a customer choosing Pepsi over Coca-Cola.
I don’t agree with your analysis of what I am saying here. Wanting a restoration of the Republic is not playing Make-Believe, it is not surrendering.
Obviously we already talked about the rules not being honored, nobody is making believe they are being honored on this thread.
But within the rules of the government we have we could fix the government and Society. It is just a matter of getting good leadership to get us there and organizing behind them.
Clinging to the mythology of the American system is.
That’s been disproven repeatedly and categorically going at least back to Nixon. We’ve been repeating the cycle of Conservative Breaks Rules / Liberal Sweeps It Under The Rug for 50 years, easily.
How many more generations plan to get Rope-a-Doped by toothless establishment hacks?
Who could you name that would qualify? Are we going to get a big name blue state prosecutor like checks notes Kamala Harris?
I don’t know what you think you are even arguing here. I know the system can work because it did work. In the post-war years until the 1970s. Only after business started to cooperate on a long game to undo the New Deal did it all go to shit. Piece by piece. In 1972 the business Round Table made a long game and it has since been refined.
That was over 50 years ago. The amount of fuckery that has happened would take another 50 years to undo assuming the Democrats were up to the task. They are not which is the reason things are so bleak today
My point is we organize and take the dem party, strong leadership that can build and run a pol machine, we could get back there in 2029, assuming r’s are too busy infighting and too disenchanted to steal an election they clearly lost. All state level cheating still losing the election that is and congress and scotus not granting it to the loser anyway.
A famously great time to be an American, assuming you weren’t colored, Latino, LGBTQ, or a woman.
American corporate collaboration didn’t begin in 1972. You can trace it back to the antebellum era and the birth of American industrialization.
The New Deal was a historical aberration that came through the rapid economic attrition of the Great Depression. Prior to the Depression of '32, Henry Ford, JP Morgan, and John D. Rockefeller were individually as powerful as any half dozen elected officials combined.
Yes anytime the new deal is brought up the detractors say that minorities were discriminated against, so, nothing they did counts. Defective logic, nothing anyone did ever would count using that logic.
Give me one historical example where you could not find injustice to negate using an example from? Just one. Nothing now would count. Nothing in us history.
Using that argument is telling of where your head is at, perhaps actively stymying resistance, to accelerate the decline mistakenly believing something better would replace it. That is the more charitable take on your use of that argument too.
The Pre-Nixon Era was defined by more than just the New Deal and the Great Society.
Understanding history is very different from advocating for “accelerationism”
Yet you do not indulge my question, give me one example that cannot be dismissed with your logic dismissing the new deal?
Emancipation. Pretty revolutionary