A judge has dismissed terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione in New York state’s case over the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, but he kept the state’s second-degree murder charges against him.
I believe Luigi is the killer, and he should be regarded as a hero. The slaying of Brian Thompson was a honorable and heroic act.
Killing a man who did the evil and destructive work of Healthcare CEO has literally saved the lives of hundreds or maybe even thoudands of United Health customers who would have had their lifesaving care denied.
If you are lucky enough to be chosen for jury duty, please study Jury Nullification
I believe a CEO was murdered but I’ve seen zero evidence it was Luigi and all evidence points to another man of different height and build. Law enforcement and prosecution haven’t even established that Luigi was even in the city, the photo used to identify him was proven to be 3 weeks olds at the time of the shooting.
Acquittal is what happens when all twelve jurors vote “not guilty”.
Conviction is what happens when all twelve jurors vote “guilty”.
A hung jury is what happens when at least one of the jurors votes differently from the others.
Jury nullification is when the jury votes to acquit despite the obviousness of the guilt of the accused. It is not the best option. The best option is for the jury to acquit based on the fact that the evidence is honestly shit.
Though jurors are never required to disclose the reasons for their vote. Any one juror who votes “not guilty” and refuses to budge from that position despite the others voting “guilty” will cause a hung jury and prevent the accused from being convicted.
Hence, it takes twelve (unanimous agreement of all jurors) to hang the accused, and it also takes twelve to acquit them, but any single juror can choose to hang the jury by obstinately voting against the others.
they are going to take a while in voir dire, probably going through hundreds juror at a time to see if any of them already havnt been consuming news of luigis arrest. it takes Hours to even go through 12 plus 3-6 alternates.( i was recently in JD and we sat there for like the whole day just doing it in the west.(like 7+hrs)
‘I believe in the letter of the law laid out by our true and just government. Also every social media post I ever made was just a shit post and I have matured as an adult last week.’
They need to link to your social media posts to YOU. My Lemmy accounts are made with temporary emails. In fact, I stopped using reusable emails unless I absolutely have to. Also I was active on facebook (I only made a facebook account because of the pestering of my family many years ago. But I didn’t use it much until years later… and even then, just for a few years, and then I stopped. I stopped using it for a long ass time. I have yet to delete my account though). There was that dumb trend online of many people using their real identities, which I kinda fell for until I realized how colossally stupid it was.
Basically if I had to conceal my lemmy posts (which is my main online social media) I just need to delete my cache and cookies and there is no way for them to find them on my phone or my other computers for them to search. I can deny ever having made any post and there is not a damn thing they can do about it. Even if they somehow want full records from ISP (and I use a VPN) I can just say I read everything and never posted.
If you say the words “jury nullification” before you’re selected, you’ll 100% be disqualified. If you say it after you’re selected… you’ll probably still be disqualified. There’s really no reason at all to say those words anywhere near an actual jury. But you can explain the idea, carefully, and maybe not too explicitly.
A jury is the final arbiter of the law. If you decide that throwing a sandwich does not constitute assault, then it’s not assault.
I believe Luigi is the killer, and he should be regarded as a hero. The slaying of Brian Thompson was a honorable and heroic act.
Killing a man who did the evil and destructive work of Healthcare CEO has literally saved the lives of hundreds or maybe even thoudands of United Health customers who would have had their lifesaving care denied.
If you are lucky enough to be chosen for jury duty, please study Jury Nullification
I believe a CEO was murdered but I’ve seen zero evidence it was Luigi and all evidence points to another man of different height and build. Law enforcement and prosecution haven’t even established that Luigi was even in the city, the photo used to identify him was proven to be 3 weeks olds at the time of the shooting.
too bad witty is worst THAN BRIAN, and also HEMSELY.
It takes twelve to hang the accused but only one to hang the jury
Jury annulment is the better option here. Best option.
Acquittal is what happens when all twelve jurors vote “not guilty”.
Conviction is what happens when all twelve jurors vote “guilty”.
A hung jury is what happens when at least one of the jurors votes differently from the others.
Jury nullification is when the jury votes to acquit despite the obviousness of the guilt of the accused. It is not the best option. The best option is for the jury to acquit based on the fact that the evidence is honestly shit.
Though jurors are never required to disclose the reasons for their vote. Any one juror who votes “not guilty” and refuses to budge from that position despite the others voting “guilty” will cause a hung jury and prevent the accused from being convicted.
Hence, it takes twelve (unanimous agreement of all jurors) to hang the accused, and it also takes twelve to acquit them, but any single juror can choose to hang the jury by obstinately voting against the others.
And make absolutely sure that they don’t suspect you will be doing jury nullification. They won’t allow you to be on the jury if you do.
they are going to take a while in voir dire, probably going through hundreds juror at a time to see if any of them already havnt been consuming news of luigis arrest. it takes Hours to even go through 12 plus 3-6 alternates.( i was recently in JD and we sat there for like the whole day just doing it in the west.(like 7+hrs)
‘I believe in the letter of the law laid out by our true and just government. Also every social media post I ever made was just a shit post and I have matured as an adult last week.’
Think that will work?
They need to link to your social media posts to YOU. My Lemmy accounts are made with temporary emails. In fact, I stopped using reusable emails unless I absolutely have to. Also I was active on facebook (I only made a facebook account because of the pestering of my family many years ago. But I didn’t use it much until years later… and even then, just for a few years, and then I stopped. I stopped using it for a long ass time. I have yet to delete my account though). There was that dumb trend online of many people using their real identities, which I kinda fell for until I realized how colossally stupid it was.
Basically if I had to conceal my lemmy posts (which is my main online social media) I just need to delete my cache and cookies and there is no way for them to find them on my phone or my other computers for them to search. I can deny ever having made any post and there is not a damn thing they can do about it. Even if they somehow want full records from ISP (and I use a VPN) I can just say I read everything and never posted.
No. It won’t.
If you say the words “jury nullification” before you’re selected, you’ll 100% be disqualified. If you say it after you’re selected… you’ll probably still be disqualified. There’s really no reason at all to say those words anywhere near an actual jury. But you can explain the idea, carefully, and maybe not too explicitly.
A jury is the final arbiter of the law. If you decide that throwing a sandwich does not constitute assault, then it’s not assault.
Nice try, but unlikely