You can’t imagine how happy am I to have never jumped the wagon. To either VSCode or to anything from JetBrains. Began using eclipse on my uncle’s computer back in ~2010. And just never left.
It followed me through c++, java for uni classes and Python. It followed me when I switched to Linux. I’ll bring it to my grave if it keeps going.
Is it the best? Nope. But it’s fucked up consistently enough for me to get used to it well enough.
Willingly is a strong word. More of a “this shitbox is the only thing I know how to use well”.
It’s been my first window into programming. And at the time my uncle used it for work. So he taught me how to get around the mess.
Also I’m quite sure Eclipse played a big role in why I despise Java with every atom of my being.
I’ve tired switching to VSCode. But my peewee brain doesn’t process how to use it. It tries to default to the way I use Eclipse.
I’ve started managing to rattle off some programs with micro+clang. That seems to be the easiest way out for me. Considering I don’t program for a living.
I feel like an accountant refusing to let go of it’s MS-DOS based software ffs.
Eclipse 15 years ago was OK. Decent Debugger, useful Plugins (like WindowBuilder). It had issues, but instead of focusing on those they over time just kept
piling crap on top of it.
Is it time to go back to the plugin-hell called Eclipse?
It is NEVER time to go back to the hell that is Eclipse.
Go to frigging notepad or kedit before Eclipse.
kate is pretty good for the kind of terrible Python code I produce.
That Notepad? The one with Microsoft AI in it?
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2024/11/06/new-ai-experiences-for-paint-and-notepad-begin-rolling-out-to-windows-insiders/
no, the plus plus
I like the plus plus.
Honestly? I would suggest using one of the frigging “vibe coder” IDEs over Eclipse at this point.
I would also accept Wordpad.
Well if you want a real world comparison:
We migrated a project a few years ago from Eclipse to IntelliJ. Outcome:
So yeah I wouldn’t recommend going back into hell. Even VSCode and it’s forks are likely better at this point.
Not just no, but hell no.
You can’t imagine how happy am I to have never jumped the wagon. To either VSCode or to anything from JetBrains. Began using eclipse on my uncle’s computer back in ~2010. And just never left.
It followed me through c++, java for uni classes and Python. It followed me when I switched to Linux. I’ll bring it to my grave if it keeps going.
Is it the best? Nope. But it’s fucked up consistently enough for me to get used to it well enough.
Are you for real? I seriously cannot imagine anyone willingly using Eclipse.
Willingly is a strong word. More of a “this shitbox is the only thing I know how to use well”. It’s been my first window into programming. And at the time my uncle used it for work. So he taught me how to get around the mess.
Also I’m quite sure Eclipse played a big role in why I despise Java with every atom of my being.
I’ve tired switching to VSCode. But my peewee brain doesn’t process how to use it. It tries to default to the way I use Eclipse. I’ve started managing to rattle off some programs with micro+clang. That seems to be the easiest way out for me. Considering I don’t program for a living.
I feel like an accountant refusing to let go of it’s MS-DOS based software ffs.
Eclipse 15 years ago was OK. Decent Debugger, useful Plugins (like WindowBuilder). It had issues, but instead of focusing on those they over time just kept piling crap on top of it.
To be fair, the community edition IDEs from Jetbrains are open source and any telemetry is optional.
True. But there’s also the fact that eclipse is maintained by the eclipse foundation. a not for profit, I’m not sure how it works for jetbrains’ CE versions. But I assume they’re still handled by jetbrains itself.
shouldn’t matter too much for the open source versions. But there’s my 2¢
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