The new Tron: Ares got me thinking just how common Hollywood sex offender blockbuster stars are, compared to women in leading roles. Then I realized the same is true for directors, producers and whatnot. Then I realized that’s probably true as well for all official or otherwise roles of responsibility in companies, churches, any sort of union and everything else.
It’s insane our society looks like that.
None of those links do anything to discredit the claim, though.
That’s if you automatically assume the claim is true without evidence, though. Which wasn’t the original commenter’s position. The original position was whether you could prove OPs titular claim with data.
Thus far? The answer seems to be “Nope.”
That’s because thus far no one has provided any data that’s relevant to either side of the argument.
Aggregated lists of the “best” blockbusters with women leads are irrelevant to the discussion.
Then why take it as given that the claim needs to be proven false, rather than the other way around? Your mind seems to be made up before any reliable proof has even been presented.
I did no such thing. That’s you extrapolating incorrectly.
Literally all I said was that the provided information isn’t relevant to the discussion.
No, you said it doesn’t prove that the claim is false. Which isn’t even what they did. They expressed doubt and provided links supporting their doubt.
And my point was that their links didn’t support their doubt.
Pointing out someone’s argument is flawed doesn’t mean you support the other side of the argument.
Did it not? It showed, at the very least to them, that there were a large number of female led blockbusters. To have more sexual predators in lead roles than that would take quite a significant amount. Certainly leads to doubt in my mind.
Why, in your opinion, is their opinion invalid because of this?
Again, a “best of” list of 20 some odd movies spanning many years based on the author’s opinion doesn’t support the doubt they were expressing because it doesn’t provide enough information.
Of course it does. The links show there’s a huge number of blockbusters with women leads. So the onus is on the person making the original claim for it to be believed
But a high number of blockbusters with female leads still doesn’t contradict the claim.
The claim wasn’t that there aren’t any blockbusters with female leads, it was that there are more with men who are also sexual predators.
And those links don’t even show that there’s a high number of blockbusters with female leads. They’re just an aggregated list of the best profitable movies with female leads. You need to have the grand total of blockbusters, and the total number of blockbusters with female leads to draw that conclusion.
So youre saying it doesn’t prove anything, and thus OPs original claim is yet to be proven false. Or more importantly, proven true.
Yes, I’m saying the data provided has no relevance to the discussion one way or the other.
You mostly seem to be saying that OPs claim is absolute truth until proven otherwise. Which is a wild stance to take when, thus far, no proof has been given.
Please provide a quote of me making a statement regarding the validity of either side of the claim.
Why do they need to contradict a claim you purport not to support?
I answered that in the comment you quoted.
You need to learn that criticizing the validity someone’s argument isn’t support for the other side.