The talent has nothing to do with Rust AFAIK. Only the GPU driver is written in Rust. There are however efforts put into other drivers written in Rust.
The developers could have written those drivers in C instead, or to hell with those close-minded Linux developers, fork Linux and keep writing in Rust.
Forking Linux and continuing to do that instead of up streaming is a massive task, especially as time goes by and code similarities drift. It’s much better to upstream. This is why fortune 500 companies contribute to the Linux kernel.
The old guard in the Linux kernel have a real stick up their ass against anything not C, despite Linus himself advocating that rust drivers should at least be looked at. It’s turned off a lot of new blood doing projects like Asahi because they don’t have upstream support so the burden of the project is much too great for a hobbyist endeavor for something that should otherwise be fun and mentally engaging.
Agreed. I was fully aware that forking Linux is more of a joke than anything.
Spot on on the hobby point. If I am writing code while not being paid, I need to enjoy every moment of it. In addition to coding, project managing and ensuring backlash make me nope the fuck out of it.
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Even if he is correct about about it being a code of conduct violation (it wasn’t), there is way to take action and it isn’t posting an attack on social media.
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There has certainly been drama around Rust, but as was said in the thread: “Being toxic on the right side of an argument is still toxic, […]”
If only Linux devs weren’t so toxic against rust that it drove out talent that was working on Asahi Linux for these devices :V
The talent has nothing to do with Rust AFAIK. Only the GPU driver is written in Rust. There are however efforts put into other drivers written in Rust.
The developers could have written those drivers in C instead, or to hell with those close-minded Linux developers, fork Linux and keep writing in Rust.
Forking Linux and continuing to do that instead of up streaming is a massive task, especially as time goes by and code similarities drift. It’s much better to upstream. This is why fortune 500 companies contribute to the Linux kernel.
The old guard in the Linux kernel have a real stick up their ass against anything not C, despite Linus himself advocating that rust drivers should at least be looked at. It’s turned off a lot of new blood doing projects like Asahi because they don’t have upstream support so the burden of the project is much too great for a hobbyist endeavor for something that should otherwise be fun and mentally engaging.
Agreed. I was fully aware that forking Linux is more of a joke than anything.
Spot on on the hobby point. If I am writing code while not being paid, I need to enjoy every moment of it. In addition to coding, project managing and ensuring backlash make me nope the fuck out of it.
That’s certainly a way of looking at it.
The talent was upset at a conflict between kernel maintainers and posted a personal attack on Mastodon. The comment is now deleted ( https://web.archive.org/web/20250204004048/https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/113941358237899362 ).
The Code of Conduct explicitly lists public harassment as an example of unacceptable behavior.
Even if he is correct about about it being a code of conduct violation (it wasn’t), there is way to take action and it isn’t posting an attack on social media.
There has certainly been drama around Rust, but as was said in the thread: “Being toxic on the right side of an argument is still toxic, […]”