- They help individuals channel their frustration, isolation and desperation
- They are a show of strength
- They typically lead to more political involvement
- They have already produced wins
- They must remain nonviolent to be effective
- They must be in small towns in the heartland, not just big coastal cities
Find one near you at nokings.org
This post uses a gift link, but some people do seem to be prompted to register. I can’t change SF Chronicle policy about that. They also have a history of sending lawyers after people who post archive.today links to their articles, so whatever you do, don’t plug the URL into that site.
Symbolic actions actively take up time and energy that could be devoted to material actions, particularly if they are as disorganized as this. That connection exists in your mind. There’s nothing stopping you from skipping the rally and going in directly canvassing more. Also, referendums fall squarely within the democratic system which elevated the guy you’re calling a dictator. It’s time to remember Hitler got elected. Gerrymandering laws won’t stop them throwing people into camps. This whole thought process is disjointed. These people are breaking the laws what you’re voting on state constitutional referendums to change! Did you forget this is a federal system and they are breaking federal laws too?
It’s truly comical that people talk about the No Kings Rally like it’s going to decolonize the U.S. and then you look at their actual messaging and its Hillary Clinton-tier wine mom sloganeering from the DNC. You guys have gotten me reading Baudrillard again. That’s how bad this is. I’m reading fucking Baudrillard. I don’t even like Baudrillard dude.
I have to disagree here: symbolic actions are how you get people hooked on action. Big ones like this have a significant bandwagon effect. Its very much a good use of a couple hours
Well, I wish you luck during the next election when you all go around hoping marginalized communities forgot you did nothing but cheer yourselves on. Nobody in the hood forgot the things Kamala “Do Not Come” Harris said, here that is where the Haitians are.
This is a shocker to you I know, but the “I’m just a widdle guy who doesn’t wanna hurt anybody 😭🥺” rally is not going to inspire anyone who had their family members kidnapped. Why do you love being a joke to the right wing and coddling them?
LoL
I’m doing something and getting others to join me, taking advantage of a public low-risk event to get others started down the same path. You’re sitting around complaining.
Yes, very lulzy, isn’t this whole situation funny? I already understand being asked to act against the fascists is a joke to you. You’re doing something for the democrats. You won’t lift a finger against ICE. What’s going to change other than your self-image during multiple fronts of ethnic cleansing? You won’t guilt trip me into coming to your liberal complaint parade. Its purpose is to reassure fascists you pose zero threat to them. Go and dance for them, go on!
I know what you say to the marginalized when you campaign. “We’re all you’ve got. 😁” The democrats are much like someone who got all their bones broken in a huge avoidable car accident and still thinks everything is fine due to shock. Things will never be the same. These strategies failed under Bush too. That’s why you imitate them. They’re safe. You have zero expectations for yourself other than telling people how right you are, scolding them. This is why the party has failed voters.
You keep saying about what they shouldn’t do, yet you have not listed even one thing you’ve already done that is better than things you’re calling as performative. If you want to prove your point, just list these things and explain how they’re more effective than protesting.
These are not protests, they are parades. Protests dont have a set start and end time. Protests continue until things change.
Not saying they couldn’t do better, but they are for sure doing more than the guy not doing anything other than criticise the way of people protest on the internet.
People that are effective in protest are being ignored by liberals that think they know how to. Liberals are incapable of protesting when they dont even know what they are protesting.
That’s blatantly false, I already mentioned the people who directly intervene with ICE raids - which en masse can be relatively effective - rather than throwing a self-aggrandizing parade for the DNC (which ran in the last general election on Trump being weaker than them on immigration).
In Italy and Spain and other countries you can even see other liberals striking and blocking shipments to achieve protest actions. You are particularly cowardly and inactive, even for liberals.
Maybe it’s the better European cuisine? /s
Wait. So you are doing nothing yourself and in fact, aren’t even in the country of the people you are derriding for not doing enough?
Here in Saint Petersburg we do much to make the Orange Chimpanzee suffer. Speak not of this ingratitude to me.
Those are people, not you. What did you do that gives you the right to say what other people do are useless? What did YOU do that was more effective.
Doesn’t matter how effective other’s actions are, because they are in a far better position than people who do nothing but criticises other people’s actions.
This is exactly the kind of aggrievement that suffering-as-accomplishment generates. Going out and flaggelating yourself won’t stop the raids. It’s wasting people’s energy on non-solutions, that’s a negative. It’s tiring inaction.
These protests are primarily against the prospect of violent resistance to Trump. Go look at their slogans and quit living in fantasy land.
The situation isn’t a joke. You are.
Epic clapbacks won’t stop the raids. You guys already tried that.
Epic (mediocre) clapbacks is all they got
The people stopping those raids are recruiting at protests. Meanwhile you do nothing.
Batman is there too, carrying a sign that says Restore Society. Meanwhile, Jimmy Kimmel is helping recruit people to stop ICE. This just in 🥳 he told his audience to start calling “North America” Turtle Island.